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Post Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:36 pm

can i flood coat recesed panels with 651?

Any other board members think I will be ok filling vehicle panels with black oracle 651 before applying graphics and lettering?

I would normally use 751 but I have a squillion meters of black 651 and if I thought it would be ok i would use it.
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:51 pm

if you mean stretching it into the recesses mate, ide say no.
751 is a cast. much better performing vinyl in recesses as opposed to a calander vinyl. "it will" pull out in a matter of days, longest a week or two.
from here it is back to square one.
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:05 pm

as rob said,

I use 651 daily, 80% of my signwork uses it, but for anything with a recess then it's 751.

it'll be fine though if you mean you just want to fill the area within the recesses, just not 'into' them.
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:46 pm

651 flat panels only. Sorry. :(
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:20 pm

Flood coating an area with 651 is fine if it's flat and it's extra thickness does a better job than 751 series.

Am I the only person who prefers the older version of 751 (calendered rather than cast).

Since 751 changed to cast I have found it more difficult to apply without bubbles. The older calendered version of 751 was less brittle, weeded better, and applied better IMO.
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:31 pm

You're not alone Phill.

751c is a bit of a non-starter here. The girls don't like cutting and weeding it and the lads aren't keen on applying it.
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:57 am

John Childs wrote:You're not alone Phill.

751c is a bit of a non-starter here. The girls don't like cutting and weeding it and the lads aren't keen on applying it.


thank god it's not just me !! i think it cuts and weeds lovely, but is a pain to apply, 651 goes down better and doesn't squish/wrinkle when you push an air bubble out !
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:00 am

tks.

Its just for flat panels, I wouldn't expect it to stretch and stay stretched.

I agree as well about it being easier to weed and apply totaly, my first ever van livery was with 651 and I have to say it was easier job than anytime I have used 751.

But is 751 not a bit smoother lookin?

I mean If I used both, 651, and 751, side by side on the same job would it look irregular?
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:15 am

it should look ok together, i regularly do, but.... and i've been caught out here... don't use the same colour in both 651 and 751, even if the same '086' type number, they'll look differnt, the colours are negligibly different, but with the 751 being thinner, the background colour can also effect the outcome as it shows slightly through the vinyl.

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