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Post Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Black Glossy Vinyl-wrap for MDF??

Hi All :)

We have to make a large, 6ft diameter, black glossy backdrop. It is a circle that sits in a stand. We made one a couple weeks back and cut it on the CNC, 2 x pieces of 3ft half circles covered in padded material. These were fitted together into a stand and personalised with the clients name. She then stood in front of this with friends at her 50th party as it was used as a photo backdrop.

This one was relatively easy, as it was just 12mm MDF, but this new one needs to shiny, glossy black. She has suggested cutting two pieces of black acrylic, but my worry is that this will not only scratch easily, but could chip at edges in transit.

I am wondering . . is there a decent black vinyl (like the type they use for TV studio floors and I am hoping Rob that you know about this type of thing having seen your brother's work over the years etc? :) ) that we could then cut another two 3' MDF semi-circles to make a large 6' circle, and have them wrapped so they look black and glossy?

The workshop is based in Harlow, so if anyone has any ideas or could even help, I would very much love to hear on any advice please?

I will attach a pic the client has given me which she wants it to look like. (but without the gold text)

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Post Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:41 pm

Re: Black Glossy Vinyl-wrap for MDF??

Will black dibond be any use with the join at the bottom?
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Post Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:46 pm

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CoverStyl' or 3M's DiNoc from William smiths, will fit the bill nicely.
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Post Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:21 am

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Kevin Mahoney wrote:Will black dibond be any use with the join at the bottom?


Hi Kevin, not too sure? Is it available in black gloss? I think it is as I remember using A3 pieces from Amari plastics for students to airbrush on, but I cant remember the costs? The pieces will need to be 6'x3' and I am not 100% sure if we can cut it on CNC as its all still very new to us!

Any advice very welcome

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Post Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:23 am

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David Hammond wrote:CoverStyl' or 3M's DiNoc from William smiths, will fit the bill nicely.


Hi David,
Just looked at the 3m product and not sure which way would be cheaper or easier? Because we have SO much to get ready by next week, if We went the wrap route, we may need someone else near Harlow to sub it out to. Any ideas anyone?

Also, do they do a glossy black? Bit difficult to see in website charts?

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Post Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:40 am

Re: Black Glossy Vinyl-wrap for MDF??

Coverstyl' J5 is gloss black.

Can't see a gloss black in Di-Noc.

Coverstyl' is like a thick vinyl, has air channels, and surprisingly good to work with.

It comes in 1220mm width.

Depends how thick it needs to be, and as you say timescale.

If you can get away with 3mm thick, then gloss black composite, available in 8x4, and possibly 10x5.

If it needs to be thicker, and you're confident cutting MDF, cut that and flood it with Coverstyl'. Check with Smiths, the vinyl should be a stock item I would expect?
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Post Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:16 pm

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I used cover styl' in gloss black, lovely stuff to work with but scratched very very easily.

I tried applying it 2 ways, first with a squeegee and a buffer, the second time using a laminator and all it took was something like rubbing it with your thumb to leave marks and you catch it in the light and it looked awful.

I ended up going over it again with a carbon material.

I used gloss white a few weeks back and looks perfect.
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Post Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:46 pm

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8x4 gloss black ACM all day long
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Post Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:44 pm

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Fitting a gloss black vinyl seems to be a lot of effort for no real return here in my opinion. You will be limited to width for a start, no matter what material you go for, so a join is inevitable. Doesn’t matter what your level of ability is, no gloss vinyl on mdf will get near the quality of gloss acm. A 10 x 5 should give you both sections of a 6’ circle, keep the join towards the bottom, maybe back up with 12mm mdf to avoid having the Rolf Harris wobble, don’t use the factory edge to join together, they are sheared to size on 2 edges & it bulges, not good when you’re trying to achieve a seamless look.

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