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Alison Elson

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Post Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:41 pm

First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

Hi there, i'm new to the world of vehicle livery, :smiles: i just wanted to ask how i would position text on my artwork for a Peugeot partner van as it has a slant on it. Should my text be set at a perspective angle to reflect the slant or horizontal and positioned according when its actually put on the van. it would be vinyl cut. ive attached a mock below. i thank you all for your help.
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:13 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

Quick easy rule...
Run everything parallel with the sill of the vehicle.

text on your van is far too big.

vehicle outlines are only 95% accurate at best. keep well away from door/panel joins, badges etc to allow a tolerance for inaccuracy.

always design as it appears when your typing in the text, dont rotate or change.
dont follow body lines on screen, only do this if its incorporated into the design, even then you should see the vehicle in the flesh first.

seeing as this is your first post, please load your profile picture or send us and we will load for you. rob@uksignboards.com
fair deal after our help? :wink: :lol:
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Alison Elson

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Post Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

thank you for that, i didn't know about the line inaccuracy so thank you for pointing that out! it was just a quick mock so you could understand what i was trying to achieve.
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:34 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

no problem... yes i guessed it was just for a visual as such or your client has a great number and .com :smiles:
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Alison Elson

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Post Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:44 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

would it be possible for me to send you the completed artwork to ensure that ive set it up correctly privately?
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:20 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

Yes not a problem. Just use email i gave earlier in thread
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Martin Pearson

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Post Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:36 am

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

Like Robert has already said vehicle outlines are never completely accurate when it comes to sizing & even if they were you often find that badges have not always been placed in the same position so always good to see the actual van.
I used to have a notebook & would record the true panel sizes of every make & model van that I applied livery to, this helped save quite a bit of time as it saved me measuring the panels on every single van that I did :lol: :lol: :lol:
When you are out & about spend some time looking at vehicle livery to see what others have done, sad but I used to study each van I saw to see how it had been done & what I could have done (if anything) to make it better :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:41 am

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

We always use photos now for visuals and only use the outlines to save the final file.
Take some accurate photos of the side of the van and the rear, make sure they are perfectly square on. Then take some accurate measurments and resize the pictures on screen to full size.
That way you know where every Badge, crease or dent is.
The proof looks better to the customer actually on a photo of his van.
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Alison Elson

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Post Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:20 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

Martin Pearson wrote:Like Robert has already said vehicle outlines are never completely accurate when it comes to sizing & even if they were you often find that badges have not always been placed in the same position so always good to see the actual van.
I used to have a notebook & would record the true panel sizes of every make & model van that I applied livery to, this helped save quite a bit of time as it saved me measuring the panels on every single van that I did :lol: :lol: :lol:
When you are out & about spend some time looking at vehicle livery to see what others have done, sad but I used to study each van I saw to see how it had been done & what I could have done (if anything) to make it better :lol: :lol: :lol:


thankyou for your reply, I think i've caught the livery bug because lately im examining every van that i see driving past :lol: :smiles: i hope to do more in the future so will definitely start keeping records
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Post Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:21 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

Martin Oxenham wrote:We always use photos now for visuals and only use the outlines to save the final file.
Take some accurate photos of the side of the van and the rear, make sure they are perfectly square on. Then take some accurate measurments and resize the pictures on screen to full size.
That way you know where every Badge, crease or dent is.
The proof looks better to the customer actually on a photo of his van.


this is a great idea, i will mock up on the clients van. thank you !
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Post Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:23 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

A big thank you to everyone who has taken the time to reply :claps: :smiles:
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Post Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:28 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

If you look at most vans nowadays the lines are all different, we do the sill way too, there will even be a ridge on the sill where the underseal comes up to, we use that alot
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Post Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:40 pm

Re: First vinyl design help with the positioning text for Peugeot partner

As per Martins idea, I tend to use photos now for layouts and sample for customer, looks great and never lets me down.
As for the angles etc, I sometimes go by the sloping lines but it depends on what else is going on the van and also the make of van. Vauxhall Astra vans are a prime example, no level lines above the sill, and if it's just a name and phone number in the panel then I keep it level, but if more stuff is going onto the bits below the panels (specially a long name down the side) then the panel stuff will slope down a bit and the rest will slope a bit more, almost in line with the vehicle lines. I did an astra van years ago with a big name down the side and I kept it level, it looked naff, so I pulled it off and redone it.
But any van with at least one panel edge level then all else would be level.
Well that's my take on it anyway.

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