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Pane Talev

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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:02 pm

My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

Afternoon folks.

This is my first Dibond tray - made by hand router today, to be used on my own shop front.

I need some advise/ ideas / drawings on how to make this solid / how to attach it to the wall and not afraid that one day will open wide. I hope I'm explaining my self well. Size is 2950mm x 690mm

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I'm used to installing a lot of Ashby Sign trays. They are much more solid and didn't require any special support / fixings.
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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:45 pm

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

I just use angle aluminium strips top bottom and sides to fit the tray onto. This not only holds the tray up but keeps the folded returns in place at a 90 degree angle
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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:06 pm

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

Phill Fenton wrote:I just use angle aluminium strips top bottom and sides to fit the tray onto. This not only holds the tray up but keeps the folded returns in place at a 90 degree angle


same as phil maybe some araldite or similar inthe corners

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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:03 pm

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Thank you Gents!
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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:47 pm

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What router did you use out of curiousity. Looks like it done the job.
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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:05 pm

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

We cut a piece of aluminium angle and bond into the 4 corners to hold the joints together, then install an aluminium angle onto the wall at the top and the bottom of the sign fit the sign tray over the angle and screw through the tray into the angle with self drilling screws

Job done
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Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:18 pm

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Thanks Colin!

Tahsin: Dewalt DW615 - purchased for this job. Very happy with this tool.
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:20 am

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

Just an update on this.
The glue i used failed so i ended up using rivets.
Super solid now. Not as nice with the rivets being there but wanted a solid Job.
What glue you use to glue the corner aluminium pieces to the dibond?
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:32 am

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Pane I wouldnt use glue for any part of this tray without backing it up with a rivet.

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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:33 am

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

I think you can rivets with coloured heads. Might look neater
http://www.rainbowfixings.co.uk/white-rivets-314-p.asp
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:16 pm

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

Thanks Simon!

Ewan, thanks for the link!
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:51 pm

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

Pane
don't know what glue you used but if you use Penloc (instant bond) or Simson ISR 70-05 (which takes time to cure) ensure you clean with correct cleaner, scuff etc. When you install, edges are held in place. Both of them glues are used throughout the sign industry on their own with no mechanical fixings and i myself have bonded channels on 3mtr x 1.5mtr signs using Simson ISR 70-05 with correct primer with no problems at all.

http://www.eurobond-adhesives.co.uk/str ... sives.html

http://www.bostik.co.uk/global_assets/tds/TDS01497.pdf
normally stocked by Amari etc

One last point, glue has a larger fixing area when applied correctly than a couple of 3mm rivets especially in composite

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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:03 pm

Re: My first Dibond tray- Help needed on how to install and make it stronger

Thanks Kevin,

I did glue the aluminium corners one day, and installed the next day. This might be where I did wrong. (after the corners came apart - I used rivets and things where different)

Will test the suggested glues.

Cheers

Kevin Flowers wrote:Pane
don't know what glue you used but if you use Penloc (instant bond) or Simson ISR 70-05 (which takes time to cure) ensure you clean with correct cleaner, scuff etc. When you install, edges are held in place. Both of them glues are used throughout the sign industry on their own with no mechanical fixings and i myself have bonded channels on 3mtr x 1.5mtr signs using Simson ISR 70-05 with correct primer with no problems at all.

http://www.eurobond-adhesives.co.uk/str ... sives.html

http://www.bostik.co.uk/global_assets/tds/TDS01497.pdf
normally stocked by Amari etc

One last point, glue has a larger fixing area when applied correctly than a couple of 3mm rivets especially in composite

Kev

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