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Martin Cole

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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:43 pm

Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Hi Folks,

Need help here, the Cyan head on my Versacamm is printing as pic below.

I have done manual cleans, soaked over night and a powerful clean.

This hasn't got the head firing on all cylinders and after trying to print something half way through the colour fades and I end up with the same test print as below.

Anything else I could try, other than calling someone out?


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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:20 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Martin Cole wrote:
This hasn't got the head firing on all cylinders and after trying to print something half way through the colour fades and I end up with the same test print as below.

Martin


Am I right assuming the test print is ok or better after the cleans then returns to this?

If so it ould be that ink is not getting to the head during printing? Dampers? Swap cyan carts over incase there is negative pressure?

Hope you get it sorted.

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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:54 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Does the test print look okay immediately after a clean or is the test print always like that?

If it's something that comes and goes then it's not the head that's at fault - more likely the damper, blocked outlet pipe or faulty pump. First thought is to try fitting a new damper which is cheap and easy to do.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:12 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

John and Phil, thanks for reply's,

This is the test print just after a clean...

Doesn't look like the heads at fault..phew

Ill take a look at the damper, had them replaced a couple of years ago, but never done one myself.

I have put an old cart back in John, see if makes a difference
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:37 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Martin,

I would be looking at ink starvation of some description........is the cyan cart for that channel low?
Dampers would be a cheap start......or a tiny leak in the capping station at that cyan channel.

You could pull ink through that line with a syringe to check for a blockage? or from below the capping station to check for a good seal?

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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:45 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Hi John,

The cyan cart is almost full.

It does sound like ink starvation, I'll shoot out and get a syringe later.

I've never worked on the printer myself as useless at that kind of thing, haven't got a service contract so will give it a go. :-?
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:24 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Dampers are one of the easier items to change although it was probably drummed into you that if you take it off squint / tilted it can snap the spigot on the manifold resulting in about a million pounds worth of damage and probably mean sending your machine to the scrapyard...nah, buy in some good quality dampers. Genuine about £8 each or third party that are pretty good for £2 each THEN get the covers off and lift the offending damper straight up...might need both hands to ensure a clean lift.
Undo the brass connector and swap it out for a new one. Easier to prime it before pushing it back on...stick syringe (standard or leur lock type) on base and suck to pull ink into the damper then push back onto manifold.

If you're in the mood do them all....

If you snap a manifold it's a bit of a bugger but entirely repairable in-house (head out though) and part is dirt cheap. Snapped two in the last 5 years on 10year+ old parts so pretty durable.

...and maybe replace that capping station at the same time...can't hurt...and easy (if a bit fiddly) to do.

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Post Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:37 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Martin
if you get stuck give me a shout i'll pop down show you how to change them, does look like a damper problem or air as versacamm shares 1 cart between booth sides of the head if I remember rightly

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Post Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:32 am

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Kevin Flowers wrote:Martin
if you get stuck give me a shout i'll pop down show you how to change them, does look like a damper problem or air as versacamm shares 1 cart between booth sides of the head if I remember rightly

Kev



David,

Thanks for the info, very informative as always.

However I may take you up on your offer Kev. I cant see a pm button and don't have your contact details.
Are you able to get in contact with me to discuss?
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Post Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:16 am

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

A MASSIVE thank you to Kev Flowers who came over to me first thing Saturday morning and sorted my printer out.

He is one knowledgeable guy when it comes to printers..

He replaced the Cyan dampers and a new capping station, this seemed to be the problem and now all up and running.

Kev I owe you one :praise1:
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Post Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:52 am

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Martin
you'll have me blushing, glad its all running ok now as i said any probs don't hesitate to give me a call. It's good to get the grey cells working occasionally

Kev
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Post Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:50 am

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

aw...thats nice to see...well done Kevin.. :thumbup2:
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Post Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:04 pm

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Well Done Kevin!

That's the spirit

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Post Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:52 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Good on you Kev, always good to see UKSG members helping others out mate. :thumbup2:
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Post Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:20 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Wish you lived close to Norfolk Kev, I have the same problem, but on cyan and magenta, got worse the more cleans I did, and cannot seem to get a service engineer...and I haven't a clue what a damper looks like, lol! :shake: :rollseyes:

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Post Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:02 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Whereabouts are you Lorraine ? Drop me a PM if you can. Hopefully I might be able to help you out

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Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Hi Lee

I am unable to PM you as you don't have that access. However, I am the other side of Norwich, near Wroxham, if you know the area. I am on 07518906528 if you are able to call?

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Post Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:07 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Lorraine
if i weren't so busy i would have driven down and had a look for you. What i would say is make sure you have Dampers, Capping Stations and a spare manifold because it can be either Damper or Capping Station also having a manifold on hand can be a life saver because the nipples do crack sometimes when dampers are changed.

Sorry I can't help you out

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Post Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:16 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Hi Kev, what a kind person you are! I hope to have an engineer soon, and will ask him to bring all of those with him.

Pleased to hear you are busy though. Thank you.

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Post Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:43 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Lorraine Clinch wrote:Hi Kev, what a kind person you are! I hope to have an engineer soon, and will ask him to bring all of those with him.

Pleased to hear you are busy though. Thank you.

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Can you confirm all is OK again now Lorraine?
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:58 pm

Re: Versacamm Cyan head getting blocked

Hi Stafford, no, I can't! Thought I had it back on Saturday, nozzle test today, a few nozzles missing, medium clean, loads missing, then half cyan gone, it keeps wavering between colours on the A-group of heads. Can it have an air leak? The dampers and a cap top were changed, but ran out of ink too, did an ink fill when the inks arrived next day. It's all a bit of a disaster, I'm afraid.

On the other hand, the Mimaki survived it's head crash with no ill-effects.

Lorraine

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