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steve delany

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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:46 pm

which machine is best for high volume and low in cost?

hi all, wondered if anyone had an opinion on that mythical - inexpensive to run, but fast digital printer, I could have a lot of blueback paper to print, could be worth investing in new / 2nd user machine. Im using a mimaki JV5 at the moment, nice and fast, but drying times a problem. also seem to be a very thirsty machine!!!

any answers much appreciated

thanks

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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:18 pm

long time since used blueback paper and can't remember a drying issue, perhaps your profile is overloading the ink.
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:49 pm

If you're printing lots of posters then a poster printer like an Epson/HP or canon ipf range would be a lot faster and cheaper to run than a solvent printer. Also much cheaper to buy.
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:04 pm

If your talking high volume then you are better going to a trade printer & getting it done with the right equipment rather than messing about trying to find a more economical digital solvent printer.
Or you could invest however many 10's of thousands of pounds it would cost for the right gear :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:11 pm

The canon ipf (can't think of the model number) big enough to do A0's is around £5k, will print edge to edge on whatever roll size you want and trim to size, so no manual work as long as you're not doing odd sizes!

And it's in a different league of speed compared to solvent printers, Martin is absolutely right though, if it's volume of the same thing a trade litho printer will be much cheaper, leaving you free to do other stuff!

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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:22 pm

Paper printing

Laf don't listen to them HP1050c second hand £600 to £900 print A0 all day long for about a couple of quid we have two they make us a fortune
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:02 am

Adrian is bang on! Cheap poster printers will seriously embarrass solvent printers!

If you're doing big volumes it's always worth considering the time it takes to trim say 100 A0's when you can buy them printed and trimmed with delivery for less than £200. When you take out the time, the material cost and the ink plus time to setup the machine etc it's a no brainer.

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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:05 am

You're running a JV5 and the only problem you're having is dry times!!?? Those things scare the crap out of me :lol1:

I would definitely look at the Canon iPF 9xxx range if it's just for paper. The 8 colour machines are awesome and not as thirsty as the 12 colours. They use 700ml bottles so they are geared up for long runs. I'm sure HP has an equivalent but I've always preferred the Canon.

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steve delany

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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:10 am

Thanks all, always good advice on here, all posters would be different, so litho out of the question, also would need to be good for outdoor use / weathering. Think the work would be too much for the outlay really, probably to big for me to handle, and not a lot of money in it.
And yes Stafford jv5 seems a bit of a dog to me!!!!
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:21 pm

just a note... Blue Back paper and UV ink doesnt work well if i recall.. i could be wrong... something to do with ink not obsorb so fixing it into place trickier.

Litho or non solvent route i think
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:12 pm

Latex as got to be the way to go hasn't it, instantly dry usable ink, just my thought
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:32 pm

What about an Oce colour wave 650 poster printer? Water proof inks and water proof media available, also popups and banners can be printed. Very fast as well
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Post Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:46 am

Hi Steve and all

Havent posted for a while but always watching! This is definitely a trade job.

I have produced a lot of blue back over the years and it can be a massive problem if you dont use the right paper, printer and inks.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Cheers Nick
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Post Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:29 pm

What do you call lots ? Trade job on a turbo jet would be the fastest digital kit at lowest cost.

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steve delany

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Post Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:54 am

Thanks for all advice, great help as always, colour wave seems a good machine, never seen That system before, think the work is not for me, not enough money in it really,

Could just end up flogging machine with work for very low cost

Thanks again everyone

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