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Post Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:42 pm

airbrushing: dts timber supplies

heres a simple air brush blend that took around 10 minutes to do. I use 0ne shot lettering enamel and dont bother to clear it. customer liked it and booked his van in for same treatment. Sign is 8foot by 20 inch.
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Post Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:43 pm

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Post Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:55 pm

Hey!
Nice job. Lovely green.
Amazing what a little paint can do!
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Post Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:55 pm

Looks great, explain a little how you achieved that if you could please.
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Post Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:27 pm

One Shot on vinyl ???? what prep!


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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:01 am

my thoughts exactly Alan.............. :roll:
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:37 am

Fantastic work

Maybe it's not Vinyl, Maybe the area was masked off and its used directly on the substrate (?)

Come on give us some more info please!
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:01 am

that's very true Lorraine, I just thought I had read somewhere that it was painted onto Vinyl, prahaps I was asleep.... :oops:
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:52 am

Am I right that you are questioning one shot on vinyl. Well unless you've been asleep for 10 years or more one shot has been used for airbrush effects on vinyl for years. The only prep needed is to scuff the vinyl with a scotch pad to give it a key, the blend is then sprayed before weeding (I use coloured chalk to highlight the cut lines). The finished effect does not need clear coating and I can guarantee the one shot will not lift with the application tape. If you don't have an airbrush the same effect can be done with Humbrol enamel in spray cans, this also dries quick and you can tape up and apply within 30 minutes. Peter Milchamp (PKM Sign Studios) stocks the humbrol and uses the same techniques as do many other, and is regularly demonstrated at letterhead meetings as a way of spicing up vinyl graphics, very common in the states. Remember these techniques were developed pre printer days.
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:03 pm

What do you thin the 1 shot with Paul? all I've got is turps, I use createx on vinyl.
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:29 pm

In all honesty steve I generally airbrush with createx auto air but didn't have the green i wanted. I thin one shot with one shot low temp reducer (only a couple of drops per cup on my iawata) its not as volatile as white spirit and it speeds up the drying time.
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:55 pm

signworxs wrote:Am I right that you are questioning one shot on vinyl.


You’re darn right I am. :wink:

If a paint is only capable of adhering to vinyl by a mechanical key, imo it’s the wrong paint.


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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:40 pm

Hi alan

Didnt mean my post to sound off hand and now ive read it again it seems that way, sorry. However 1shot is an alkyd resin based oil paint that gives it excellent bonding qualities to surfaces such as glass, vinyl and banners. I didnt mean to suggest that is was purely a mechanical bond. the only primer recommended is 1shot waterbased primer for non receptive materials. I've been using 1shot/keeps enamels on vinyl/glass/banners for over 25 years and have never had a problem with adhesion.

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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:02 pm

The wrong paint? 1-Shot?
It's running thru my veins.
I've used it for the past 19 years
on ALMOST every kind of surface.
I paint right on vynull with it, using a quill.
And I don't even scuff it.
Sticks like (oh i swore !) to a blanket.
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:18 pm

OK OK I’ll try it again. But why did I reject it years ago.

Any paint I use on vinyl has to pass the tape snatch test.
That is; wait for the paint to dry (I know this can be 2 or 3 days with one shot), cross hatch through the paint layer with a scalpel to form 5 or 10mm squires, stick a piece of masking tape over the area and snatch it off.
I’m I going to find the one shot stays put !!!


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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:37 pm

sounds a bit drastic but at the same time a good test I'll try it.
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:39 pm

It will take awile to pass that test Alan.
1-Shot dries to the touch in about 4 hours,
but can take a loooong time to completely dry.
I always make customers wait a week before washing a vehicle and at least 2 before waxing it after it's been painted with 1-Shot.

1-Shot does make an acrylic UV Clear as a protective top coat.
I always apply this when I spray vynull with aersosol paint.
But the spray UV Clear sometimes will make 1-Shot crinkle up.
I paint over 1-Shot using the liquid clear and a 1" foam brush.
When I thin 1-Shot, which is rarely, I use turpentine.
Paint thinner makes it tend to lose its gloss.
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:43 pm

Hi jill

is "s@*$ to a blanket" a technical term then, didn't know you knew language like that. As for one shot in your veins I know what you mean I have to have a fix a least once a day. Have you tried 1shot reducers they work better than turps they dont thin the pigment just make the paint more workable, another old trick is to put a few drops of linseed oil on you pallet and work it into the paint, makes it flow better but extends the drying time a little.

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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:38 pm

who would have thought one post of a sign sign could create such interest HUH!!!!!! Funny ol' game Signmaking/writing :o :o :o :o
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:48 pm

Hi gang,
I like Allan have had trouble in the past with one shot / keep's paint sticking to PVC and vinyl....I thought it might be the prep' that was to blame ..... now I use inks and have no problems ....except the smell ! ! !
I understand that the new water based acrylics stick fine but have not tried them as yet.

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Post Thu May 06, 2004 11:51 pm

Have just painted two logos on vinyl with one shot and household gloss on the larger areas using one shot reducer and a drop of hardener. tried the snatch test after one day and had no problems. the only time I have had a problem , I couldn't remember if I prepped the vinyl or not

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