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Neil Beckett

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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:38 am

To fit wet or dry?

Hi all,

I'm soon to install the following 3 elements to a Pizza house - see photoshop visual - ( window frosting, opening hours and a finest pizza graphic. These will all be fitted internally looking out.

This will be my fist attempt at frosting. In your opinion should they all be fitted wet? Any tips for the frosting?

Many thanks,
Neil.
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:17 pm

Re: To fit wet or dry?

Neil Beckett wrote:Hi all,

I'm soon to install the following 3 elements to a Pizza house - see photoshop visual - ( window frosting, opening hours and a finest pizza graphic. These will all be fitted internally looking out.

This will be my fist attempt at frosting. In your opinion should they all be fitted wet? Any tips for the frosting?

Many thanks,
Neil.


If that was me i'd fit all the etch wet with Rapid Tac (or similar) and all the rest dry, do the etch first and by time you've finished the rest you'll be able to remove the app tape from the etch.

Just me though :lol1:
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:52 pm

Or use air release file and fit the etch dry. Used it the other day and although more expensive saves on application fluid and wiping the windows down afterwards.
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:30 pm

Personally I would fit it dry but realistically your best bet would be to fit using what ever method you are confident with, having confidence as far as I am concerned is more important than anything else.
Rather than wait until the day why don't you cut some graphics & experiment either at home or at your unit. At this stage you need to keep practicing anyway if you want to become proficient. All part of the learning curve.
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:03 pm

For the #1s I would probably use Rapid Tac 2.
The other stuff do dry.
Or...do the dry stuff first and then when you get a feel for it do the #1s last.
Maybe cut extra of those just in case.
Love....Jill
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:14 pm

Done a small job like this lately,it also was my first time using this type of material.i decided to try it dry and it turned out fine,i did take extra graphics & App fluid with me in case i was struggling when i was on site.
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Neil Beckett

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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:16 pm

Thanks for the feedback.

My only concern with the window etch doing wet is the words Pizza House which sit within a cut out rectangle. I'm concerned these may move if done wet?

Client has already chosen a MetamarkM4 -OF Frost Monometric Calendered film. I may see if she will change to Polymetric film as I don't want the job to shrink after Ive done it.

thanks.
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:44 pm

Try doing the pizza house bits dry after you fit the other parts?
I always use Oracal 8510 series and have never ever had a problem, wet or dry.
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Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:45 pm

when you get your the job done you might let us know how it went for you,maybe post a photo.

cheers, john :)
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Neil Beckett

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Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:25 pm

Thanks.

Will do John.
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Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:34 pm

I would go dry and as others have mentioned it depends which way you feel confident.
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Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:53 pm

Neil Beckett wrote:Thanks for the feedback.

My only concern with the window etch doing wet is the words Pizza House which sit within a cut out rectangle. I'm concerned these may move if done wet?

Client has already chosen a MetamarkM4 -OF Frost Monometric Calendered film. I may see if she will change to Polymetric film as I don't want the job to shrink after Ive done it.

thanks.


Not quite sure I follow you here Neil, did the customer come to you already with a material spec if they have chosen a particular vinyl??
Personally don't touch monomeric so if a customer approached me asking for a particular vinyl I would point out the reasons I wouldn't use it before taking on any work, if they were insistent then fair enough but I wouldn't try & talk them round at this stage once visuals had been done.
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:31 am

Hi Martin,

No, I just blindly gave them the Metamark etch brochure to choose from and admit at the time I didn't understand the difference. Theres only one (first one in the brochure) which is Monometric and the customer chose this one. Fortunately out of curiosity (as this was the only Monometric) in the brochure, I thought I'd better find out what the difference was and googled it which ironically brought me back to a thread on this site and made me realise the error of my ways. Still learning :roll:

I will see the client later this week and advise them to chose one of the Polymetric films. I agree after reading a thread on this subject I can't really see why anyone would want to use a Monometric unless it was for a very short term use and wanted to be done as cheap as possible.

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