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Simon Polakof

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Post Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:55 pm

Oracal 970 RA

Hi!
I was offered the possibility to try out Oracals 970RA for doing a Wrap of a big VW truck.
I found it to be really easy to work with on the flat surfaces, but it has poor adhesive power on deep parts. The part of the van were the windows should be but aren't had to be done separately, due to the fact that the vinyl didn't hold.
For those wondering if we reheated it? The answer is yes, all the way up to a 100 Celsius (suppliers recommendation) and thats when the small bubbles started to appear and then started to burst. Seeing that we didn't want to risk any pooping up of vinyl in a couple of day the decided to do it in to parts.

Have anyone of you out there had the same experience with it?

Any other recommendations?

Has anyone of you out there tried Avery® Supreme Wrapping Film? It's double the price of Oracal's but it might be worth it.

How long would it take you to wrap this van in solid blue? How many appliers would you be?
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Jon Marshall

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Post Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:37 pm

I'm not sure if the 970RA is available in the UK. We got the Avery swatch the other day but I think these films are aimed at the car wrap market where there aren't panel recesses.

I think 2 fitters could do that van in 1 day quite comfortably.
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Post Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:48 pm

I agree with Jon on times to fit

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Simon Polakof

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Post Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:07 pm

So which of avery's vinyl would you have used for this fitting then?
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Post Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:38 pm

Simon Polakof wrote:So which of avery's vinyl would you have used for this fitting then?

Avery 900 should do it.
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Post Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:07 pm

As both Johns say, 900 and 1 day, 2 fitters.
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Cameron Steer

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Post Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:25 am

Hi There,

In the UK we stock 970 series with repositionable adhesive, RA adhesive isnt so good on recesses as the adhesive gaps stretch and there may be some areas that dont adhere to the van, use the standard 970 series and heat to 120dg you wont have any problems.

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Cameron Steer

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Post Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:31 am

900 series is a 50mic film with a permanent adhesive, it will be much harder to apply than 970 series which is a double cast 100mic thick and repositionable.

We sell both so am not being biased.
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Post Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:04 am

I'm with Cameron on this. I did a colour wrap with A900 last week, and Oracal 970 (not ra version) is easier to apply.
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Post Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:09 am

A900 is much harder to remove aswell and I believe it only comes in 1220mm
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Post Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:42 pm

Wimps, the lot of you. :D

OK, the 970 might be a bit easier to apply, but Avery 900 is not difficult.

I would also hate to use a 100 micron material. To big a step from paint to vinyl. Like applying formica. :D
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Post Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:19 pm

A tip from manfred (he with the pony tail) if you want to use 900 or 951 , cover it with the appropriate film either Dol1080 or 3951 and use command form on the surface , you will effectively have a 100mic film with repositionable adhesive with a choice of about 120 colours !!


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Simon Polakof

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Post Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:22 pm

Thanks everyone for all the info.
We'll try with 970 and not with 970 RA next time. I already got a call from the customer about some part of the van that have loosen and bubbles popping up.. Thanks to you Cameron I know why. My supplier told me to reheat up to 100dg.

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