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Paul Goodwin

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:26 am

will frosted glass affect vinyl work on a rear car window?

Hi All

After a bit of advise on this one if possible please
I have a customer who wants the rear window of his Toyota Hiace van covered in frosted Glass, with his Company name and Number ect cut out.
Now i don't think this would be a great idea as in a van with no backlight his details are not going to be seen, so in my opinion a pointless sign ( I could be wrong).
I was toying with the idea of doing his sign normaly on the rear window
then backlaying it with the frosted glass with the sign inlayed into it , i havn't put pen to paper yet,

He is after a simple job so i don't want to waste my time doing loads of designs for nowt.

Any advice would be greatly appriciated

Thanks

Paul
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Allan Weyman

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:37 am

Mort,

I have done that before on a little Nova ven, it looked really good, give it a go.


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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:18 am

yep.. it will work!
i use it sometimes in normal windows..
the best way to do it though is "just say" the word is signs at 6 inch high.
when cutting it from the glass etch put a .2 or so outline around it & weed this away.
so when the word is in place. it has a clear window outline/hallow of .2 inch then the glass etch. the effect is nice but also makes lining up that bit more forgiving. :P
remember glass etch costs a fair bit more than regular vinyl. :wink:
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Paul Goodwin

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:51 am

Thanks Guys

I will give it a go then :)

Is it better to fit on the outside or inside??
I'd go for outside i think so if/when it gets removed the window heater won't get damaged.
And i know Rob fits dry but would it be better for me to fit wet?

Thanks again


Paul
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Phill Fenton

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 11:38 am

Paul - Coincidently I just did a van yesterday with an etched glass vinyl on the rear windows. This was applied to the inside. It can be seen very easily and is a nice effect. I applied it wet on this occasion as it is very difficult to align on a complex shaped window going from edge to edge all around. I used a suggestion made elsewhere on these forums recently by George Zerbino of Sign Graphics which was to cut the vinyl but not weed it. Apply application tape over the area that was cut and apply the whole sheet to glass. Remove the application tape then finaly weed out the lettering. This was the first time I had tried it and I found it to work very well. Thanks George :D

Once again heres a picture of it:-
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Alan

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 12:31 pm

As a mater of interest what would happen if the etched glass were applied as a solid piece over the whole window, then the graphics applied over the back of that. You could use white, black or whatever colour gave the desired effect. A simple experiment would soon show if the idea works or not.


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Allan Weyman

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:54 pm

Alan That is exactly what I did on the Nova van, I applied the etch to the inside and white lettering on the outside it looked really good.

Insidently this may be of interest, last week I bought 25 mts of 1220mm etch from APA who I have started using recently. I did not buy their cheapest product but a nice crystal finish and I actually saved £100 on Victory's quote which is a good saving on 25Mts. As they say it pays to shop around and keep these suppliers on their toes.

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Alan

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 7:13 pm

Allan

I was thinking of apply etch to the inside, as you have done, but then apply the lettering over the back of it to give a more subtle effect. It should work like a piece of tracing paper, you can’t see through it but lay it over some lettering and it shows right through.

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John Singh

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Post Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:14 pm

Don't worry Alan, I know what you mean :wink:
Heck! we should running out to our own motors to give it a go

John

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