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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:09 pm

can anyone advise me on applying vinyl to van?

AAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Please has anybody got any suggestions to save me from a nervous breakdown. I am trying to cover a large area of a van in vinyl, it is not a wrap and l am using 3M 7-10 year vinyl. It doesn't matter what l try l can't get a good result the vinyl always looks pitted once l have finished, and l don't understand why.

I have tried wet and dry application. I am using a centre hinge. I am using a hard squeegee. Any idea's, the only thing l can think is if the application paper is affecting it, is this possible or could it be something else.

I need to resolve this for the morning so any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:11 pm

maybe show us a pic of what you are trying to do :roll: or at least say make and model

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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:17 pm

It is a ford transit long wheeled base 09 plate
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:23 pm

Can't really comment for sure without seeing a picture of the problem.

But be aware - the glue takes up to a week to finish flowing and bonding. The surface appearance will almost certainly improve over time. Are you sure you're not being too critical of your own work?
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:37 pm

I can't take a picture until the morning as l have given up for tonight. Will take a picture in the morning and post it. I know a certain amount will settle but this is really too much to be acceptable to give to the customer like this.
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:38 pm

why are you using app tape?
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:43 pm

Best advice I can give you is don't use application tape if at all possible.

Use a felt or (my favourite) AVERY blue 1/2 felt squeegee - works a treat.

And do it dry if you can - wet as a last resort - and hope the air / van temperature stays low to keep the glue tack reduced to make for an easier application.

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Post Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:10 pm

in the area you are having most trouble i would try a smaller bit, easy to handle etc, so you can see if its technique or other problems.

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Post Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:12 pm

how do i insert a picture to show you where im going wrong?
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Post Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:19 pm

put it in the file swap forum where it allows you to upload
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Post Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:31 pm

I'm not sure what you mean by 'pitted'. However, i have seen freshly applied vinyl that has a lot of squeegee marks and small bubbles in look absolutely perfect a couple of weeks later so maybe it's not as bad as you think.
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:27 pm

Hi There,

How long ago was it painted? can take as long as 3 weeks to cure , if applied too soon the solvents can outgas causing bubbles etc, if its a cast vinyl it should be thin enough for them to escape through in a short while.

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Post Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:08 am

Are you doing this outside ? If so then the pitting is airbourne dust, you need to wipe it again as you fit it. We get this problem when the weather is good but a little windy.
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Post Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:41 am

Bubbles and the Pits!!

Must say, i have battled with this for years - i am but a mere novice compared to some of you guys and I fit graphics to vehicles maybe once a week on average but would love to get that 'new fresh paint look' using vinyl!! - I have persevered with applying dry and would love to master that technique but i must admit i get better results when applying wet -
light spray to panel then light spray to vinyl - once the vinyl is applied I then soak the application paper (for large panels I try to avoid application paper if possible) - After a few minutes the application paper should come away fairly easily, in some areas literally fall away - I use a felt squeegee to push out excess water and push the vinyl into the recesses. - Today I finished a small panel 50cm x 150cm - this was completely smooth all but a few pits left from the paint job on the panel. -

The majority of vinyl work I carry out on vehicles is left with those annoying small air bubbles?!!! - But give it a week or two then these do disappear - It just makes it a bit awkward explaining to the customer and trying to convince them that all will be well - i promise (?) :o

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