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Post Wed May 07, 2003 1:28 am

window graphics: hansons menswear

Sorry about the poor photo, just a window I did recently.
I am glad to see the end of paint when it comes to glass, vinyl gives such a nice finish - inside and out.
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Post Wed May 07, 2003 9:06 am

Gray is that on the outside ? if so how do you get away with it :lol: never seen a serious business with lettering on the outside, its recognized here that you always letter the inside in reverse or is the window heavily tinted ?
LHF font by the way ? nice.
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Post Wed May 07, 2003 6:04 pm

I reckon it’s on the outside Steve, not that that was the intention, he just forgot to mirror it.

Hands up all those that have never done it; :lol: Liars
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Post Wed May 07, 2003 7:45 pm

Now Gray: on Vinyl versus Signwriting on glass

This is where I think most traditional signwriters hail the coming of the vinyl age when it comes to glass.

Spent years signwriting on glass in reverse-extremely tiring and time consuming. If not brushed right the streaks become evident when the light shines through. Of course you can block in your work but this again requires another day. Then yet another to laquer finish.

Tell you a story now if you got the time to listen

Many years ago I was asked to do a bullet list on a window.
About twenty lines of bookman (serif) at about 40mm high
All done in brush - took me all day in fact going into the night :o :o
It was about December time and extremely cold
They had not yet moved into the premises yet so there was no heating

It was now getting late and condensation was just beginning to appear on the window

Thought no more about it

The next day it should have been a simple matter of brushing some protective laquer over each letter - about half a days work

Just checked to see the signwriting was properly dry and.......
it just peeled of the window!!!

Not one bit had adhered to the window it was all in place but just floating on condensation. A whole days work just being wiped away in a few seconds. (:) (:) (:) (hot) (hot)

I just wanted to :cry: :cry: :cry:

So I do agree vinyl is the way to go for windows
Safer, quicker, cheaper and in some instance looks better
Can't believe I'm saying this but its true

No more nightmares - its vinyl for me
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Post Wed May 07, 2003 8:47 pm

nice work gray.. very smart :wink:


ok im gonna say its on the inside... yep. definately inside! :wink:


if im wrong ill buy the first round with you three at sign uk :P
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Post Wed May 07, 2003 9:45 pm

Great work Gray,

Got me going though, should be on the inside but looks like it’s on the outside... (-)
Is it superimposed on, in Photoshop (?).

John I had a similar thing happen to me, got a job doing a small wood fascia, because it was in poor condition the owner asked me to paint it, before putting up s/steel letters which I did...
"Good job do you fancy painting the whole outside of the shop".. "Yes" I say, next day we start to paint, 10 hours (half the shop done) later just as we are off home it started to spit with rain. :o
Needless to say, when we arrived the next morning, the part we had painted was a new age tie died mess with a yellow lake around it.. :cry:
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Post Thu May 08, 2003 12:29 am

Let me put you all out of your misery :lol:

It is most definately on the inside, I wouldn't dream of doing anything permanent on the outside.

With the sun streaming thru the window, it was a pleasure and a delight to do this job, the sun (you know guys, that big yellow ball you see in the sky for 2 weeks a year :wink: ), well the sun mad aligning the vinyl dead easy-peasy.

John, I have has some fun with paint on glass too, and some huge disasters as well!
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Post Thu May 08, 2003 12:53 am

ok what one of you 3 are going to by this scotsman a drink first? :lol: :lol: :lol:


well shame on you.. look at the picture below at the point of the arrows.
it shows (only in the shadow of window) a small hallo of light blue.
this is actualy were the vinyl isnt touching the glass. which means the job has a double layer. this would have been impossible to see if applied on the outside of glass. :wink:
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Post Thu May 08, 2003 1:09 am

:lol: Elementary, my dear Watson!

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Post Thu May 08, 2003 1:15 am

The force is strong with Jedi Rob!



stronger with you mate.. so strong your next puts turns you "JEDI"

oh yeh obey-wan ill be sending you an email regarding your wee trip mate.. :wink: just need a min to stop posting here :lol:
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Post Thu May 08, 2003 8:51 am

I see now having cleaned my specs, Rob ya anorak did you see me on tv last night by the way :lol: that Mel Gibsons still a short ar.se :-?
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Post Thu May 08, 2003 10:04 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
yes i did mate.. "yeh looked a braw site, in yer kilt man"
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Post Tue May 13, 2003 11:30 pm

Lettering on the outside of a window

This thread has raised a point that has often puzzled me (not that difficult to do)

Why do signmakers always lettter glass on the inside. After all the vinyls used are outdoor durable (used on vans and exterior signs), so why should convention dictate we always reverse cut and apply inside.

I have to admit - on some occasions I have lettered the exterior of the window (because of difficulty getting access due to a window display) but I usually try and letter windows from inside because this is what the customer expects.

Why do we do it this way? (?)
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Post Tue May 13, 2003 11:44 pm

So that the Window cleaner can wack away with his Squeegee and not knock the stuff off! That's my understanding anyway? On the basis that most businesses have the outsides done all the time and the inside when they feel like it! (:)
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Post Tue May 13, 2003 11:46 pm

I’m not 100% either phill :-?
I reckon it could be down to kids.. They don’t give a second thought to vans etc as they think it is painted on. Glass makes the vinyl look floating on the outside and looks far more apparent. Draws your eye to the fact it’s applied outside. High up its fine, but most shops have large windows and kids hang around. Once they dog-ear one bit they will probably persist till it’s a mess or all off.
Another reason maybe window cleaners! Graphics are on long term..
They would cause water lines running down clean windows where the graphic held the water.. They also could not clear this area of dirty water as the water squeegee cant get into the areas needed as the vinyl holds it off contact with the glass.

Just my thoughts.. I could be wrong!
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Post Wed May 14, 2003 1:30 am

I would say vandalism is a major reason for lettering on the inside.

It's easy for kids to scrape letters off glass if they have access to it.
The exception is short term window 'splashes'

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