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as of the 1st march Oracal 651 will be known as a 5yr film

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Graham Scanlan

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Post Fri Mar 22, 2002 7:32 pm

as of the 1st march Oracal 651 will be known as a 5yr film

Rob,
can i just tell the members this little bit of information.....

as of the 1 st of march Oracal 651 will be known as a 5 year film....

read more here

http://www.oracal.com/product_news.jsp?ID=38

now that takes some beating, at the prices offered to you guys...
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Post Sat Mar 23, 2002 2:23 pm

Do you like Oracal?
I tried it once or twice, it weeded really well on a job I had for an honour board - heaps of small letters.
I applied app. tape to it but when I tried to remove it from the release liner I had an aweful job getting it off.

I figured that the reason is weeds well is because it hangs onto the liner so much.

The job was a huge waste of time and I've never used oracal since.

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Post Sun Mar 24, 2002 7:14 am

Thanks Lorraine, thats' what the supplyer said here.

Boy it's hard settling on a good vinyl and supplier, there are so many choices.
You'd think I had it sorted out after nearly 20 years of cutting vinyl, not so!

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Post Sun Mar 24, 2002 9:46 am

THe depth of cut and quality of the cutter and blade and offset has a lot to do with it we use mainly matt vinyls which do weed and carry well the only problems we encounter are with emulsion painted vinyls- we do that to get all the corporate colours we need to match- we have to put a mist of spraymount onto the logo before it is carried we have not yet used Oracol like the idea of a UKSG overnight collective account a bit of a lever would be nice when they screw up

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Post Sun Mar 24, 2002 10:21 pm

The 651 range is not a vinyl I use. All our vinyls are the 751 series.
If I was to say anything about the weeding of small letters is that not only does the 751 vinyl weed very well, but lifts great also.
I don?t know why the 651 is tricky to lift maybe moonbrat could help you there. :lol:

Have you tried turning the vinyl face down on the bench and rolling back the release paper rather than lifting with the backing tape. This is a great method, which i am sure you probably all use by now. If not try it!
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:09 am

Yes Robert, that's what we did, but even then every letter had to be assisted - hundreds of them.
It put me off the vinyl and I doubt I'll revisit Oracal 651 again.
this has a bit to do with suppliers here too. My best supplier doesn't carry Oracal, they sell Calon (Arlon) and Avery. I like being loyal to a good supplier, sometimes that means not always using a product I might prefer.

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Post Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:48 am

I've just used some 651 recently - and had no probs with it. It did seem that the black is more difficult to weed though, or am I losing the plot. At the price, it's great stuff and it has a nicer gloss finish than a lot of other 3-5 yr vinyls.
Hope this shows I'm not a professional europoint knocker!
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