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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:15 pm

How to? on Grafi-C-Print

Anybody used the above before, I am trying to print with the Gerber, what settings do I need and it looks like I need to remove the backing before applying to shirt?

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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:03 pm

OK phoned Grafityp, said it is just trial and error, so I have tried and errored enough and need to get shirts out for tomorrow, so anyone used this successfully?

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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:20 pm

Dave, here are the application instructions:

After printing and cutting, remove image from backing, cover with a siliconised paper or Teflon sheet and proceed with application. Protective sheet has to be removed after application has gone cold.

Considering the variety of different base materials available on the market, transferring instructions given hereafter should be taken as a general indication.

Temp: 150 C
Time: 10 - 15 sec
Pressure: Medium
Washable to: 50 C

Dave as for how to use with the Gerber and get the best results would be the trial and error side, as we do not have access to this equipment for sampling.

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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:26 pm

Thanks Nigel, I did get that sent to me, but just can't seem to get the image printed on to the stuff. Also what is this 'foil' to remove after application, there isn't any! I mean if you think about it, you print on side A, contour cut side A, remove side B apply to garment and then remove side A, so where is the print, it will be on this 'foil' (protective sheet)the instruction talk about.

Have I been sent the correct stuff?

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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:13 pm

Dave, I have some of this too, not tried to print it yet, I was told by Nigel Pugh - Grafityp that it was perfect for thermal printing, so if they have no idea what settings to use how can they say that?



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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:26 pm

not sure if this is the same as the stuff i use in the Roland pc60 but i print then cut then apply app tape to printed face and remove clear backing
then press for 5 seconds allow to cool remove app tape (you can get app tape made for this job but i use standard)

then cover again with Teflon sheet and press again
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Post Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:37 pm

Dave in terms I understand this is how you use this material, you print on the side which does not have the clear polyester protective sheet.

Once printed you remove the clear poly sheet (foil) and then place the C-Print onto the garment (print side up).

Then either use a silicon release paper or teflon sheet over the print and then apply to the garment with the heat press.

Nick this material can be used on thermal printers, solvent, eco solvent, but we cannot give accurate settings for Dave to use on his printer as we do not use or supply that make of machine.

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Post Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:39 pm

Just tried printing on to it, just black worked ok for me! maybe need to turn the heat down a bit, sounds like the foil is sticking a bit, but as I say worked ok? you know its reverse wound Dave?
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Post Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:57 pm

OK Nick what setting of vinyl did you try?

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Post Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:00 pm

Well I just had a quick go, and just used 220 mate, as I say it sounded like the foil was sticking, so next time I would try a lower heat setting.
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Post Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:42 pm

Nick Minall wrote: you know its reverse wound Dave?

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Post Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:16 am

Hey folks

Sorry about the delay, havn't been on in a few days. I've been using ths material for a while, and have some problems with the foil sticking. The only way I could cure this was to use Genuine Gerber foils for the stuff, that cured my problem. Hope this helps.

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Post Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:42 am

OK I got things printed and out the door, looked good too. Customer came back for some more and said, "oh the print comes off and the sticker goes yellow after a couple of washes". So anyone else have this problem? Maybe down to the printing temp or maybe I should apply the Abrasive guard after printing.

Nigel is looking into the problem for me, but just wondered if you guys that are using it have come across this problem.

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Post Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:33 pm

Dave how did you get on with this??

I stopped using the versacamm for garment printing as I found the ink faded rather quick :(
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Post Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:06 pm

Hi John, I sent some off to Nigel and they recon there was nothing wrong with it, said it must have been washed wrongly.

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Post Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:23 pm

Dave Bruce wrote:said it must have been washed.

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Post Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:19 am

Dave,
You must not apply the material for at least 36 hours. I made the mistake of applying a few hours later. This does seem to wash off quickly. I have a jacket that I did over a year ago and haven't had any problems. I use the backing paper from vinyl wax side down for easy release of the image. It does scratch fairly easy though.

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