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Post Fri Jan 04, 2002 4:53 pm

Does anybody else suffer from bad colour ranges in vinyls?

Does anybody else suffer from bad colour ranges in vinyls that are not an arm and a leg a metre ie 3M 100/200 RANGE who actually decides what colours to make when vinyls are produced? what criteria do they use? why don't manufacturers make vinyls that match industry standard colours ie Pantones we use in the conference and exhibition industry mostly matt vinyls the ranges in these are sadly lacking hows about vinyls with attitude ie graduated or patterned something with a bit of flair to it any ideas guys how about we all get together and buy vinyls in bulk to attract good discounts its a cut throat trade at the moment the big boys are loosing ground who do you guys buy from? lets have some tips on good purchasing deals I can thoroughly recommend Ashby trade signs in Reading for Ali panels great suppliers any others/
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Post Fri Jan 04, 2002 11:19 pm

good topic mate!
im not sure but i think you have already joined a buying group as such. lol "uksigngroup.com!"
this is the sole purpose for creating this site. buying as a group.
we have agreed on prices & at this moment in time we are awaiting final written confirmation. as soon as i get this i will in turn notify all members of the group.
if you would like anymore details then drop me an e-mail and ill answer whatever questions you have. at present we have reached our 50 members goal. once we have sorted out the vinyl buying we will then approach various other suppliers for perspex, metals, cutters, software etc etc
as for your fancy vinyls such as gradient blends, etc. you wont get a great price for them in the uk as nobody actualy manufactures it here.
the best source i have found and there prices where very good was "coburn" they are one of the largest film manufacturers in the world.
they have a rep in the uk but i always deal direct first & let them put me thru to them.
they have the largest supply of fancy vinyls i have ever seen. ask them for there free sample pack. they have prismatics, glow in the dark glitter, about 18 colours of foil vinyl including day glow. the list goes on.
see there website. we may actually be dealing thru them for the US SIGN GROUP which will be opening shortly. http://www.coburn.com (not sure if this is correct)
hope this has helped with your questions.
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Post Sat Jan 05, 2002 7:09 am

Thanks Robert i hope this chat attracts some interest as the bulk purchase and material swop idea for acrylic offcuts will obviously assist with potential higher profit margins we would all welcome that!
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Post Sat Jan 05, 2002 6:15 pm

yeh i agree mate.
i will introduce it when we have the new classified board up and running. it has lots of functions to do this kind of thing.
ill keep you all posted.
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Post Sun Jan 06, 2002 11:59 pm

Must admit - after umteen years using the same ranges of colour you do tend to wish for something more...must admit though I was taken with a few of the new colours in the Europoint range...yeah, I know that sounds like a 'can I do you know sir? - ooohh!' sort of thing but no! - honestly - if you havn't got their info thru yet then get it - some of their stuff's a bit diff'...

The other thing I suppose you have to look out for when you use a 'set' range of colours is that (like only having ten fonts on your machine)you can end up in a bit of a rut, thinking only in terms of those colours and not experimenting with new ideas and combinations...then again I suppose it'd be OK if we all had a Gerber Edge II - d'ya think you could arrange a group discount on that one then Rob? :smile:

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Post Mon Jan 07, 2002 9:50 am

yeh mike
this i think would this would be possible.
im speaking with another supplier just now
that can supply lots of differnt products to the trade. cutters, signlab, various substrates etc etc. but will have to see what they can do.
its the usual story. they want to do as much as possible for us. but drag there feet when it comes to commitment. i.e. signing on the dotted line. typical of them actualy ide like them to give us all a months credit without filling out an account application.
but yeh i dont see why spandex would not jump on the band wagon & give the group discounts for the edge. or maybe roland with the PC60

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Post Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:28 pm

on the subject of colour ranges im a big fan of repsol acrylics at the moment, they have a fantastic range and do special orders, but they dont require you to by a pallet load, its available from (dare i say robert) cox
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Post Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:44 pm

haha say what you like mate.. i dont mind.
i actualy think cox are a great company and have tons of great products.
products that i actualy buy day to day.
i just feel that lately they have dragged there heels with supporting the group but thats all. i guess maybe a few empty promises.

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