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helly

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Post Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:09 pm

how do i vectorise a logo in corel please?

Hi
we have two logo's that we need to vector but having problems. We have corel draw 12 and use the easy sign software.
have tried a number of formats but nothing seems to convert.
the logos are in bitmap form and have tried Tiff gif jpeg but to no avail !!
Any ideas or hints would be appreciated !
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Post Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:12 pm

Speedy way if you can't vector them by hand is to send them to Andrew at Vectorwise. He does a spot on job every time and charges really good rates. If you can get them to him before 6pm I think he does them by the following day as well :D

Cheers, Dewi
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Post Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:26 pm

Hi Helly

Check out this link and download the movie "convert raster to vector" or something like that.

http://www.designsbymark.com/freetips/ps/psvideos.html

You will need Quicktime player to play it

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

Make yourself a coffee

Watch

Have fun

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Post Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:07 pm

tried

hi paul , i also need this knowledge, but i downloaded both quick time and the convert video , only prob is that it wont play ?
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Post Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:09 pm

The posted url's and accompanying files are ok.
I have just downloaded them both and they work fine.

Nice shout Paul
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Post Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:17 am

Hi Mark

Sorry to hear the vid will not play

All I can suggest is you try installing quicktime again

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Post Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:38 am

I couldnt get this to download properly but it was me being silly and not reading the instruction properly, right click the icon save to a target file of your choice (took about 7 mins to download on my broadband) then will play with quicktime.

note all controls appeared greyed out on panel but worked just fine

nice link for learning paul :thumbup2:
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Post Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:04 am

thanks

i reinstalled quick time , it works perfect now



THANKS
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Post Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:24 pm

Glad you got it working mark

Did any of you guys find the video useful

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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:05 am

looks good

cheers mate , havent had time to put in practise yet , but i will , 1 question , can i do this straight in my signpal software , or do i have to go AI first ?

thanks again
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:26 am

Thats a pretty cool video Paul :D Nice one! :D

For the example they showed, it seems a little long winded, you'd expect to be able to recreate that in illustrator in about 30 seconds, but I guess its just used for simplicity to show the method of vectorising an image.

I'd like to have a go at using that method with a more complicated graphic though, it'd be interesting to see how the software handles it and whether the results are as good as vectorising by hand.

Cheers, Dewi
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:29 am

I watched the video for a bit, but then I stopped before I slipped into a coma. Firstly, the bloke does in about 800000 steps what you could do in about 3. Also, I would imagine that the resulting vector image using this method would need so much tidying that you would be better off tracing it 'by hand' in the first place, which is my preferred method of vectorising.

So there.
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:36 am

Too true Andy

Loads of steps to try and remember and wot wi' me age 'n' all :(
Just redrawn a bitmap a minute ago from scratch using signlab

Never-the-less a brilliant video :) which I've saved in favourites for a gander later

Terrific link Paul :D

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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:02 am

interested

now you got me going , i got signpal , how do i start to vector by hand please
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:38 am

Thanks for the link it could become useful in some of the tips in there, BUT and there's always a but, to do that kind of vector images, since almost everybody uses CorelDraw wouldn't it be much easier to use CorelTrace?

It's very easy to use and intuitive! Just give it a try!
Opens any logo on almost any image file format and converts it to curves, even if u need to do a small retouch would be much easier than this one shown on the tutorial! Just remenber the more accurate, more points u got on your vector line and maybe u'll need to smooth the line.

:wink:
Cya all!
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:57 pm

The problem I've found with CorelTrace is its accuracy. No matter how much you play with the setting, you can't seem to specify the path and it always adds in something silly, like a circle instead of a square. :-?

Although tracing packages and the method shown in the video are good for the basic shapes, or simple outlines, the customers are demanding more and more complicated images which to be fair, could be printed in seconds. To do them via cut vinyl is obviously going to be harder as to trace a bitmap or originate artwork in vectors is a skill all by itself. I've practised for months, and I still can't achieve some of the things Andrew could vectorise with his feet, let alone his hands! :lol1:

Does anyone have any good links for vectorising by hand? It would save alot of screenshots and explainations.

Cheers, Dewi
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:33 pm

Dewi trace programmes are only as good as the art work you give them

to test

type a couple of letters any style - about 4 ins high black - convert to bitmap 1 bit black & white 300 dpi then trace them - compare with the origananls

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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:11 pm

No doubt, any vectorising by hand would fit exactly what u wanted to achieve.
Just another way to get trough it:
http://www.deneba.com/community/howto/v ... fault.html

Any small research and u all find lots of links with tips and tricks.

After this one i'll just stay quiet about this or Andrew shortly (:) me. And i surely don't wanna **ss anyone off. Just trying to help!

Cya all
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:41 pm

Thats a cool link, nice one Britchenko! :D Explains it miles better than if it was just written down.

Don't worry about offending anyone though, the whole point of UKSB is that we have an open discussion about what works best for ppl. I'm sure Andrew wouldn't mind this in the slightest as he specialises in doing the more complicated vector images mainly that ppl need in a hurry.

Vectorising day to day is just part of the job, but many ppl struggle, including me, to get the right vectors for the job. Humble opinion, but its worth exploring every avenue to making this aspect of the job an easier on. I'd like to bet this thread has already helped more than one person.

Cheers, Dewi
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:16 pm

Keep 'um coming Britchenko

As Dewi says this is what this site is all about - helping one another out

Nice link

As Chris says: It is important to get an image as large and clean edged as possible. Trying to work from a smudgy bitmap the size of a micro chip is going to give you problems.

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