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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:20 pm

Wallpaper alignment issue

Hi folks,

Not having a good day.

I just wanted to know what others take was on this.

On Monday afternoon we fitted a wall paper graphic in 3 sections in an old Victorian building. The walls are not flat, not smooth, not straight, lumps and bumps galore, wall paper hanging and curling off the wall. We pointed this out and cracked on.

Today the client is annoyed that in the furthest left join the black lines do not match up, however the pink does as does the rest of the bridge and the 2nd join is so good they didn’t even know it was there. The 2nd join is on a smooth, flat piece of wall.

They want it re-done. Which ok, customers not happy I’ll crack on with it. I know some folks on here do this everyday, we don’t, so I wanted to know that under the wall circumstances is this really the best it could of gone, or are we rubbish at our job and should of done things differently. The whole image is link this vertically and horizontally so I can’t even move the join to a safer area.

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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:40 pm

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

Look's to me like it's not aligned. I've just moved the left hand drop in photoshop, across and up and it lines up, of course I don't know what's at the bottom.

We used to apply the top few inches and work down the drop, but had lots of issues with it moving and stretching, we now work from the centre of the drop up, then down, using a snitty to cut the backing paper in the middle, works far better for us.
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:23 pm

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

Hi David,

Yea we have learnt the same as you. Half and half much safer.

I just don’t want to re-print and have the same problem. It is a tiny amount off and over a wall that was 4m x 2.5m I would say it was within acceptable permeters.
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:23 pm

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

I was once applying 5m tall walls.
Prints printed in the USA.
No time for reprint.
In the warehouse we where in we had a lot of space.
We lined up the prints. (graphics on them did not match by around 20mm)
Client accepted the facts and told me to do my best.
The media was removable. Did not take particals of the wall.
Print already installed - I carefully unstuck from the wall - and used heat on the that 1500mm loose vinyl and I got my 20mm missing with heat and stretching.
Did the same with 4 of the prints on the floor.

Showing us the whole design will help us judge better.
If re-printing try doing the tiles where you can get away with bad alignment.

I will personaly try stretching with heat before re-printing.
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

Chris, when you say wallpaper - is it self adhesive or paste up ?
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:39 pm

Wallpaper alignment issue

Was self adhesive.

Attached a photo now. The text also has a join through it but is mm for mm perfect. Like they haven’t even noticed it is a join. Was also a much better piece of wall.

Everything other reference point has lined up mm for mm on that join. Just not these black lines.

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Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:10 am

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

We do a huge amount of wallpaper but it’s all paste up. Had too many issues in the past with self adhesive.
As you have already pointed out, the wall in part is not flat and that alone can cause trouble with joins.
Straight lines are always the hardest to match.
We always carry a huge selection of coloured pencils just in case a join is a fraction out, takes the eye away from the problem area
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Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:10 am

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

Iain out of interest which is best pastable wallpaper as just been asked to quote for a bedroom, printing on ej640 ( how long should we gs out for?) cheers mate hope your all good
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:41 am

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

As a paperhanger, I offer some tips.
Pasting the paper gives more control re soakage . I usually paste 3 and then hang the first of them.
I also use Solvite Readymixed tub paste. Great adhesion and joints stay down.
If you are not an experienced hanger just paste one sheet and hang after 2 mins and this will allow the media to become supple.
On a long drop, to avoid stretching when the sheet is opened out, fold the paper in the concertina method and just open out as you descend.
Always check the match at eye level and if necessary work from there, up and down.
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:23 am

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

Hi Shawn, we use a variety of paste up media but our preferred choice is produced by Newmor (Formally Dixon Turner)
Their graphite paper in my opinion is one of the best around, prints really well and is exceptionally durable.
They also supply the wallpaper paste for hanging .
With this media you paste the walls and NOT the paper.
We also seal all walls prior to any hanging. We use products from Zinsser which are fantastic but a watered down mist coat of PVA will do the job equally as well and keep costs down.
All our paper is printed with overlaps so you can splice joint so a seamless finish
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:58 pm

Re: Wallpaper alignment issue

I’ve done a few of these jobs and been lucky or the material has helped, we print and trim the paper which is pre pasted and all we do is spray the back with water and let it soak for a few mins and hang, apply and squeegee the printed paper, works well and the media does not stretch, we get ours from all print supplies

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