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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:15 pm

Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

Had a customer in today, they have removed some old signage and we were adding new.

Whilst removing the remaining glue, the customer asked about the halo that remained from where the old letters were.

No amount of glue remover shifted it, you could feel a step, where the lettering was in places.

On closer inspection, for some reason beyond my comprehension, it appears the previous sign company went free hand with a knife, cutting the vinyl on the van.

Customer wasn't happy when I explained the only fix will be a trip to a bodyshop.

A useful few photo's next time someone questions our price. :yikes:
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:17 pm

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That is a shocker!
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:56 pm

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Steady hand lol pinching that one
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:02 pm

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Is the surrounding paint raised? Do you think the vinyl was already there and it has had a respray? Painter might have masked off the vinyl and then cut round the edge following the vinyl to remove excess tape before spraying? Cant believe someone has actually done this by hand????
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:09 pm

Re: Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

Perhaps it was resprayed, only affected the right hand door, top two lines.

Here's a photo of the door after we put a new logo on it.

Or did the fitter bugger up the lines, and then try an onsite fix?
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:19 pm

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From the pictures you have posted it actually looks like a glue line, the sort you get what a cheap vinyl has been used. Over time the vinyl shrinks leaving the glue behind which then collects all the road grim :lol: :lol:
I have known these to be very difficult to remove, literally having to soak it with tar & glue or IPA & then just keep going back & soaking it some more until eventually very slowly it starts to shift. That makes more sense to me than someone cutting with a knife on the van :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:42 pm

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Definately a hand job!!! If you look full screen you'll see that the lines go past the edges of the text where they overcut. There's possibly some glue there but without a doubt that paint is cut. That's it folks we're selling the GR640 and going freestyle. Think of the money it will save on backing up / picking text etc :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:06 pm

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Definately a hand job!!! If you look full screen you'll see that the lines go past the edges of the text where they overcut.

What difference is viewing it full screen going to make ?? Still the size of a postage stamp on my phone & I'm as blind as a bat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 pm

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What difference is viewing it full screen going to make ?? Still the size of a postage stamp on my phone & I'm as blind as a bat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

One of our designers is colour blind, you 2 would get on great lol

View it on your PC screen when you get a chance, you'll be shocked at the shape of it. The "S" is especially bad.
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Post Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:10 pm

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That's been a body shop paint repair, painters masked up the signwriting, and painted round it, rough as toast but seen it done in my painting days,
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:58 am

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David Mitchell wrote:That's been a body shop paint repair, painters masked up the signwriting, and painted round it, rough as toast but seen it done in my painting days,


I think you're spot on David. :claps: It's the body repair shop that is at fault not the previous signmaker. :thumbsup:
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:01 am

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Still beg's the question, why on earth they'd hack at it with a knife :shake:
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:18 am

Re: Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

They (the bodyshop) masked over the lettering, and trimmed away the masking with a knife.
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:34 am

Re: Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

To save a few quid, removing the vinyl, and replacing it?

We've a few body shops contact us to ship vinyl out to them for vans we've done.
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:38 am

Re: Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

seen it done = told to do it by my tradesman :lol:

basicly u would run 2" masking tape over the lettering and trace round the letters with a blade, can be pretty effective place to hide a "join" in the paint as if u coloured the full panel to the edge it would never match the panel next to it, so probably hide the colour in amongst the lettering and clear coat the full panel,

remember the body shop guys gig is fixing the van for that customer at that time, not taking into account what may happen in the future,

actually had a van in last week with the exact same thing, and i did immediately think WTF do painters do such a thing :lol: :lol:
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:41 am

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not everyone can get the original vinyl guys etc to do them, and would amaze you how often guys that get a works van home, and prang it, would try n get it fixed without the boss ever knowing,

amazing what you can achieve with a bit of bodyfiller and a spray gun
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Post Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:48 am

Re: Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

Seen this a few times over the years where the lettering has been masked to re-paint.

seems Incredible that some painters mask around lettering rather than get new graphics.

That is shocking though :shake:
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Post Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:48 am

Re: Who needs a plotter? Worst workmanship I have seen.

Yep had a respray

Did a chapter 8 kit only the other day. Removed the badges and then it was obvious the rear door had seen a trip to body shop

Explained to owner and problem solved by replacing the badge after vinyls fitted. Not gonna be as simple for your guy. His van needs a respray to sort that mess out

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