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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:29 pm

Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

I have been asked to apply vinyls signs onto the glass atrium on top of the roof. My question is what is the best way to gain safe access? It's quite a shallow roof 30 degrees or so. Any ideas, or do I just walk away from this?
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:35 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

I would say the only safe way would be a roofing scaffold.

But the pricing of that would make your customer run away. If I was honest this is just one of those jobs I would never do purely down to health and safety and the cost of application.
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:48 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

Do it from the inside?
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:53 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

Any Good Phil ?
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:10 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

Kind of what I'm thinking Dan
They specifically asked for it to be done on the outside David as this is how the building next door has been done
I'm liking the Helicopter idea Martin, :thumbup2: ( but surely in an instance like this a hard hat and hi vis vest should be worn?)
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:22 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

Would a cherry picker boom lift be suitable you can hire them from a local tool hire company for about £150 a day.
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:30 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

It could potentially be useful. Well only if you have IPAF trained staff anyway.

The only issue even with a lift is that you will have to be leaning out of the basket a lot to apply this. They are not really made to work with this sort of application. Would be safer than roofing ladders but would be inconvenient with the basket getting in the way
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:55 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

How about a rope access company, you supply the vinyl and they'll install it.
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:12 pm

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Just spotted a major flaw in your plan Martin....
Won't the downdraft from the helicopter blades wreak havoc with the self adhesive vinyl? How do you expect me to be able to fit this in what would amount to a 70mph Gale force wind :roll:
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:27 pm

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Phill Fenton wrote:Just spotted a major flaw in your plan Martin....
Won't the downdraft from the helicopter blades wreak havoc with the self adhesive vinyl? How do you expect me to be able to fit this in what would amount to a 70mph Gale force wind :roll:


I did think of that Phill, but if you use wet application, you may just be alright :-?

Alternate suggestion below :thumbup2:
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Post Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:14 am

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

I take it those windows don't open inward for cleaning at all.
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Post Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:58 am

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2 cherrypickers coming from opposite sides of the building working together.
One to go to the apex and one to go below.
With a bloke in each bucket holding an end each of the vinyl
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Post Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:35 pm

Re: How to gain safe access to a roof

What about hiring the guys that did the Barlinnie Prison Riot banners? Located not far from you and i am sure most will be out by now.
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Post Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:11 pm

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Somehow Rob I don't think you and Martin C are taking this seriously enough, and I even have my doubts about Simon..
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:03 pm

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

I think the message from most members is to avoid the job
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:25 pm

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Phill Fenton wrote:Somehow Rob I don't think you and Martin C are taking this seriously enough, and I even have my doubts about Simon..


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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:46 pm

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Any idea where I can hire one of these from?
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:12 pm

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

Phill, do you think one of those would be practical given you need to be able to squeegee whilst using those control's?
H&S would have a feild day with you if spotted hovering above Remax!
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:16 pm

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

I've thought of that, I would be using auto pilot...
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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:23 pm

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Looks like you're going to have to resort to the time honoured device - strategically placed of course!

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Post Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:48 pm

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

Phil
maybe pick up some sky hooks & a long wait as a counter balance

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Post Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:30 am

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

Kevin Flowers wrote:Phil
maybe pick up some sky hooks & a long wait as a counter balance

Kev


If you think Phil is going to need that sort of specialist gear Kev then he might just need a spur lash as well.
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Post Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:13 am

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

Well I sent an email off to my customer today explaining the difficulty in gaining safe access, and as some of my chums on the UKSB were being less than helpful with their suggestions, I was unable to offer a supply and fit service.

The building next door has signs on the atrium though (which is what prompted the enquiry) - I'd love to know how they did it :-?
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Post Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:45 am

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Phill Fenton wrote:Well I sent an email off to my customer today explaining the difficulty in gaining safe access, and as some of my chums on the UKSB were being less than helpful with their suggestions, I was unable to offer a supply and fit service.


Wise move Phill....

Although between us I thought we had it well resolved. :-?
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Post Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:00 pm

Re: Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

Phill Fenton wrote:Well I sent an email off to my customer today explaining the difficulty in gaining safe access, and as some of my chums on the UKSB were being less than helpful with their suggestions, I was unable to offer a supply and fit service.

The building next door has signs on the atrium though (which is what prompted the enquiry) - I'd love to know how they did it :-?

It depends a lot on how tall the building is and how tall the atrium is but a solution like this might have done the job.
http://www.angliahandling.co.uk/ladder-platform.html
Also, I would have tried to talk with the guys next door and ask how that has been done. It's worth to learn.

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