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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:42 pm

Holographic projecting sign query - help please?

Got a customer asking about getting a holographic projecting type sign - Think Batman, and the big bat being projected into the sky. I kind of know what he's talking about but wouldn't have a clue where to start looking.
Has anyone done anything like this and can point me in the right direction?

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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:15 pm

i maybe off on the wrong track here but if your actually talking "Hologram" as in StarWars "Help me Obi Wan Kanobi you're my only hope"? :D
I would scrap the idea now... :lol1:

I have a long term customer who saw a hologram logo when on holiday and wanted his logo as a 6ft high, 18ft wide hologram outside his new offices being built. long story short, it cant be done at that size, and what is available has very limited viewing angles and correct lighting required to see it at all. more so, the cost of a custom one start around £5000 for about a 24inch inch high one. (that was some years ago now so will vary on price etc nowadays)

However, i am thinking its more a Gobo Projector you are after rather than a Hologram.
these are much easier to come by and not as costly. in fact, i used to rent a very crude version of these to some of my customers around 20 years ago.
As your from scotl;and you may remember a Glasgow store called "Victor Morris"?
i would buy second hand night club oil-wheel projectors for about £40 each from VM.
they came with options of oil wheel filter lenses. "Like the gobo lens today" anyway on the lens i would cut in black vinyl, in reverse and stick it to the lens.
when you turned on the projector it shot the logo onto the wall/floor/ceiling and continually rotated it.
i would rent these to customers when they opened their shops or did promotions.
work very well and projected logos right across streets and the like. (get permission first) :D
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:49 pm

Or 3M vikuiti rear projection vinyl & projector?

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Post Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:08 am

Sorry for the late reply guys and thanks for your input.
This is the kind of thing he's after http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/quest ... l-possible.

I'm guessing it will be A - very expensive, B - useless without clouds, C - probably an air traffic violation.
I did try to tell him this but he insists its something that is used regularly in Poland and is relatively inexpensive.
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Post Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:47 am

Gobos

You can have Gobos custom made by several companies which is cheap, they come in several sizes depending on the light fixture you use.
The type of lamp /light that would be used for this would be an ETC source four lamp, which is a profile light, with a beam angle of 35 degrees they would require a b sized gobo.
If you google custom gobo makers, they indicate what
Sizes fit into several light fittings.
Moving lights accept z size which are very small Gobos as there is a carousel with about 8 Gobos in each lamp, this is the type used in shopping centres and music shows, A sized gobo would fit the older type of T Spot lamp which you can pick up for a decent price, made by rank strand a few years ago, the key is finding a "profile spot type lamp/light", re the smoke, in Theatre we use haze or smoke to produce the beam effect or cloud as has been demo'd in you old illustration
The other type of lamp used large scale Las Vegas bounce off clouds type lamp is a thing called a Sky tracker, mounted on a trailer, require a built in generator, very large, very expensive, can be hired, the gobo is scaled up to suit.
Whatever lamp is chosen for the job, you have to be able to focus it, hence the zoom slider type focus pulling the lens back and forward to allow you to get a hard edge on the gobo, the art work required can be fairly basic even JPEG, they then make a stencil type laser cut metal "thin metal" disc which then fits into the gobo holder which slides into the lamp, leave for twenty minutes before removing as it gets white hot
Google search for Gobos should throw up several UK suppliers, I use them all, the time, for temporary sign promos there are local rules, when used near public roads, sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than seek permission
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Post Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:00 am

Extract from Gob web site
Custom Gobo FAQ

THE PROCESS
To order custom gobos you will select custom gobo as an option then select the manufacturer and the size gobo you require. You will then upload your image/ artwork using the browser which will enable you to search for your file via your desktop.
You will then be required to select the material you require and the quantity you need, once you have completed this process with all gobos required, you will be able to confirm payment. Your order will be sent directly to our Sales Administrators. They have an exclusive phone number and email address so that you can be sure of reaching them as quickly as possible.
It is very important to us that you are assured that your order is being dealt with and that you have confidence in the process. Therefore we will contact you within 2 hours of receiving your order. Once you have completed the process online you will be sent the order confirmation and your artwork for approval, however if there are any complications or delays you will be contacted to discuss your order in more detail. Your sales administrator will also discuss the exact nature of your artwork and any technical difficulties they can foresee. However if there are no further requirements your order will be processed and you will receive your artwork for approval before your gobos are manufactured and delivery is scheduled.
Artwork supplied should always be the best available to ensure the most accurate end result. On custom metal gobos 'tagging' is necessary to prevent 'island areas' of metal dropping away so if you have a preference for where tags should be positioned, this should be indicated on a sketch accompanying the original artwork. Otherwise our graphic artists will place tags as discreetly as possible to maintain the integrity of the design. Time spent working on your artwork in preparation for production is considered part of the service and rarely incurs any additional cost.
Artwork is processed the day it is received in readiness for etching. These artworks are subsequently kept on file to enable you to re-order as quickly and efficiently as possible.
ARTWORK & TURNAROUND TIMES
Custom Metal Gobos
If you have “gobo ready” artwork and confirm your order by 10:00am we will ship same day. Orders requiring the Intervention of our graphics department or confirmed after 10:00am will ship next day.
Custom Glass Gobos
Black & White - Subject to artwork… orders confirmed by 12:00 mid-day, will ship same day. Orders received after mid-day or requiring graphic intervention will ship next day.
Colour - The manufacture of colour gobos is a more complex procedure so a little more time is required. Orders Received before mid-day will ship in two full working days, Orders received after that will be shipped in three full working days.
Be aware, poor quality artwork may have a detrimental effect on our ability to honour these turn around times. Submitting quality artwork is the best way you can help us help you get your gobos in good time.
Missed the deadline? If you require your gobos faster than our stated turnaround times. Speak to us. We can often manage a special production run to get late orders out same day. But this cannot be guaranteed.
CUSTOM GOBO SIZES
Rosco can provide you with any gobo size to fit most mainstream lanterns. In order to do this we require the following details when the order is placed: manufacturer and lantern type, and/or the overall diameter and image area of the gobo. If however you are unsure of the gobo size you require our customer services consultants will be happy to advise.
ORDERING A CUSTOM GOBO
Rosco is the world’s largest manufacturer of gobos. It has a dedicated and knowledgeable Customer Service Team just for custom gobos. The sole mission of this team is to make the process of getting a custom gobo easy and error-proof. These steps will insure a successful outcome:
Place your order on line following the steps, which will be sent to us automatically
The artwork can be in almost any form, but designs with very fine details should be no smaller than 300dpi. Remember, a high quality image requires a high quality file to work with. You should consider using Adobe Illustrator for line art (eps or ai formats) and Adobe Photoshop for images that contain gradients or greyscale elements (psd or eps files). For high-quality, full-colour gobos, a good rule of thumb is to submit 1800pix x 1800pix files. Almost any file format such as jpg, psd, ai, tif, pct, or png is acceptable. Do not send WordArt or CAD files.
If your digital file makes use of fonts, please convert to outlines.
Scans of drawings or illustrations used for custom steel gobos can be faxed to +44 (0)20 8659 3153
Specify what you need and when
• Indicate the quantity and size gobo you need for each design you submit, as well as the lighting fixture(s) you will use to project them.
• If you will be using an uncommon fixture, please make sure to indicate size of the Outer Diameter of the gobo as well as the Image Area . You can always check our website for more information about your fixture. Or, contact our Customer Service Team and we’ll assist you in tracking down the correct specifications.
• Indicate whether the gobo will be a front (most common) or rear projection.
Some Additional Tips
Steel Standards on Glass — Any Rosco steel gobo designs can be made on black & white glass and shipped to you in just 2 days! This is an ideal solution when using modern moving lights that cannot accept steel gobos.
Keystone and Distortion Correction — When hanging positions make it impossible to project your image without distortion, Rosco artists will assist in adjusting the artwork to compensate. Call for more information.
Rush Services — Sometimes there just isn’t enough time in the production schedule. If your order won’t make our published cut-off times, just ask. We’ll always do whatever possible to make sure you get what you need, when you need it!
Proofs — Want to make sure the gobo we make is exactly as you need? Request that a proof of the gobo be sent to you before manufacturing. We’ll gladly send you the tooling for you to approve. Just keep in mind that any delays in the approval process may delay delivery of your gobo. Proofs are not possible for same day rush or on colour glass rushes.
Colour Matching — While we always endeavour to match colours, as there are many variables outside our control (source, colour temperature, ambient light, projection surface etc.) we cannot guarantee colour fidility. As a reference we match colours at Daylight (6000K).

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