Warren Beard wrote:NOOOOOOOOOO Derek NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I've been through 2 of these, slip cluch, they wear out, start squealing and add a lot of undue tension on the rolls as they die due to the cluch not actually working very well.

Also for long prints through the night you have to tighten it up (again adding more tension) so that when the roll gets heavier it still turns otherwise a pile of print on the floor usually stuck together

I've now got one from Grafityp (Thanks again Nigel ) and it's only about £400 and has a dancer bar, so when it drops below a certain point it turns a few times to take up the slack and continues until the print stops and then it just sits there unlike the slip cluch which keeps ................. slipping

George Elsmore wrote:Dex, i can only speak from my experience with the one I bought, I have had it for 2 years and never had a problem BUT as it says on the tin if you have a bad experience with it dont blame me Warren I have been in the sign making business for 20 years and would not recommend something that I did not think was fit for purpose

nuff said

happy christmas and a prosperous new year

Warren Beard wrote:I've been through 2 in 2.5 years, maybe just unlucky as there seem to be plenty of these out there, I still think the one I suggested works better and that's from experience of having both so that trumps your 20 years

Reasons why;

Vinyl under constant tension and on jobs left overnight the tension remains on wearing out the clutch and constant strain on your pinch rollers.

Also I had a lot more problems with banding when using it especially when the clutch started going and the tension would keep changing. Also if I attached the print while it was printing a solid area it would leave a band as you're essentially giving the vinyl a pull causing a band in the print.

As the clutch wore out it would drop black filings from the clutch.

removing the core from the take up meant undoing the grub screws and moving the flange over and then re-tightening when you put it back and they never fitted nice and tight either.

The one I suggested eliminates all the above issues.






.... and I've only got 6 years in the industry

Gary Birch wrote:

Warren Beard wrote:I've been through 2 in 2.5 years, maybe just unlucky as there seem to be plenty of these out there, I still think the one I suggested works better and that's from experience of having both so that trumps your 20 years

Reasons why;

Vinyl under constant tension and on jobs left overnight the tension remains on wearing out the clutch and constant strain on your pinch rollers.

Also I had a lot more problems with banding when using it especially when the clutch started going and the tension would keep changing. Also if I attached the print while it was printing a solid area it would leave a band as you're essentially giving the vinyl a pull causing a band in the print.

As the clutch wore out it would drop black filings from the clutch.

removing the core from the take up meant undoing the grub screws and moving the flange over and then re-tightening when you put it back and they never fitted nice and tight either.

The one I suggested eliminates all the above issues.






.... and I've only got 6 years in the industry

After having 3 of the clutch type over the last 3/4 years I bought 2 of these earlier this week, initial impressions are wow what a difference. In my opinion much better than the clutch type and would recommend to anyone.

Thanks for the heads up Warren much appreciated.

Cheers

Gary