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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:24 am

Tesco offering embroidered schoolwear?

Just had an email from ETC


TESCO OFFERING EMBROIDERED SCHOOLWEAR

Tesco are now launching a scheme to offer embroidered schoolwear, having already targeted 1,448 state schools in Birmingham, Leeds, Glasgow, Sheffield and Hertfordshire.

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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:34 am

think i heard this before... when will the monopoly ever stop
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:57 am

They will be offering to livery your van up while you shop next :D
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:37 pm

tesco

doesn;t TESCO stand for Taking Every Single Company Out
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:47 pm

Re: tesco

Mark Latchford wrote:doesn;t TESCO stand for Taking Every Single Company Out


Think i'll be putting that on a t-shirt :lol1:
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:51 pm

they already offered sublimation printing of mugs, t-shirts etc etc so i guess that's been profitable and this is the next step. they get the sale of the item and the print. now clothing etc
i am not sure it would work the same for vehicle graphics, but nothing to stop them doing cheap and cheerful signs over the counter!
Tesco pulling the carpet from the likes of us lot is annoying to say the least, but i think they are looking for the ebay type customer looking for cheap and cheerful. i dont see companies dealing with them as such. by that i mean i dont see a firm ever calling tesco and saying, can you pop round and measure up for my signs and give some advice, or can you design my vans and provide me some drafts etc :lol1:
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:50 pm

Last week, I went to have my eyes tested in Tesco and I joked with the staff that it wouldn't be long before they do hearing tests too.

"Next month" she replied

They already control and in many instances destroy farming. They cause more harm to the high street than any shoplifters ever did.

What is the Tesco font - I think I'll make one of those shirts
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:11 pm

We are all guilty of shopping at supermarkets.......take a little more time and buy from independently owned shops like butchers, bakers etc when you can........often no more expensive and better quality.... it will become habit.

i dont see companies dealing with them as such. by that i mean i dont see a firm ever calling tesco and saying, can you pop round and measure up for my signs and give some advice, or can you design my vans and provide me some drafts etc


not enough margin in it for them!

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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:12 pm

Hi John

Really don't need mean to offend you but isn't having your eyes tested there just supporting TESCO's and pushing out the one man opticians?

Wouldn't we all be Tesco's if we could?

I wouldn't mind their profit in my business!

On a serious note they should stick to food and keep the high street for the traders and proffesionals.

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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:15 pm

Before i say this... I agree with you lot! :D

But i often try see things from the opposite side of the fence.
If YOU owned a company with such a high footfall, and where constantly trying to expand... "would you not do the same?"

Take us vinyl junkies that's been fitting vehicles for years... we moved to digital, we moved to Sublimation, we moved to LED's and so on...
Take those firms pushing Sublimation printing and the like, they moved into selling work-wear and promotional gifts, and more...

It happens... i don't knock it, but at the same time i "do not like it" but that's a personal view... which i think we are experiencing when we see tesco do same... I think its more we are shouting "THATS NOT FAIR" and quit rightly... {whilst picking our dummies up}... but what ide say is just look at it as they are absorbing the time wasters you do not need for ongoing business.

I know there are always two sides to the coin and many will tell me i am wrong, just dont worry too much about it and focus on what YOU do.
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:20 pm

Seems to only cause people a problem when the Tesco's of the world start encroaching on 'our' businesses..........

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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:28 pm

John Cooper wrote:What is the Tesco font - I think I'll make one of those shirts


Don't know if i'd be brave enough to wear it outdoors :-?
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:32 pm

i buy from a local embroidery company and the quality of school wear is shocking and its the only place i can buy it from, the quality of the sweatshirts have deteriorated the last few years and is the worst Ive seen, so if tescos do a better quality of clothing, then i wouldn't hesitate buying from them :D
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:38 pm

its the only place i can buy it from


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lots of regulars on here are embroiderers....why not change supplier Nik? or buy garments from Primark and get them embroidered?

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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:59 pm

To be fair to Nik, the school our son goes to has a specific uniform that can't be bought at retail outlets such as Primark. They HAVE to be bought already embroided from the school and the price is high, quality poor.

If our local Tesco was to go into competition with the schools choice of manufacturer I would have no problem buying from them, as we all want a good quality product for a fair price.

I would be interested in knowing where people purchase there baked beans....!!

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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:40 pm

matty goodwin wrote:Hi John

Really don't need mean to offend you but isn't having your eyes tested there just supporting TESCO's and pushing out the one man opticians?

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I did think about this but Eye tests are free and as I understand it, the optician doesn't receive any payment from the NHS. I declined the offer of purchasing my glasses from Tesco.

I took the results of my eye test with me and will purchase my glasses elsewhere.

Farmers have been driven out of business by large corporate giants Tesco because they fix the price paid per litre of milk and leave very little profit for the farmer. Meanwhile, Tesco are making vast profits.

Whereas we were once self sufficient in milk production, we now have to import 40% of our consumption.

Of course we all aspire to make a profit and increase it year on year but at what cost.

At this rate we'll end up living in a vanila society where every street and town will look the same, same shops, same products, same fixed prices. Most towns are already like this.
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:47 pm

Our prices are not lowered to a poor standard by the likes of Tesco, we need to look closer to home. its those inexperienced, naive or maybe just desperate, that are lowering the value of our products. Well... that and the cowboys... :roll:
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Post Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:58 pm

But you can't really apply that theory to the farming industry Rob.

It won't be long before we have un-manned Tesco superstores. We already have the option of un-manned tills in Tescos and other large stores.

The smart tag has already been developed by Tesco, just push your trolley stuffed with imported goods through the payment scanner and the total is automatically deducted from your account. end of the till girls, end of the agricultural industry, mass unemployment and we're left with financial services! Yuk.
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Post Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:05 am

Again John, I appologise if I offended you.

Isn't Tescos marketing such that if your there to have your eyes tested you'll be tempted to buy something from the food/drink/Dvd section?

I am with you on the supporting local shop keeper/farm shop ect. but in this day and age morals are slightly overuled by cost.

As in our industry, quality and professionalism outway the cheaper 'cowboys' but as the larger sign company Franchises prove, they can buy in bulk, with discount, and provide a cheaper service without loosing the quality.

Isn't that what Tesco's do?

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Post Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:10 am

matty goodwin wrote:Again John, I appologise if I offended you.


Not at all Matt. My dislike of Tesco is well known amongst my work colleagues :)

Another thing Tesco do, is to buy up land to stop competition.
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Post Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:10 am

Just for the record Northampton have the first 'unmaned' Tesco's!!

Its great until you get a problem at the checkout and then 3 members of staff turn up to assist that have been paid to sit and watch a monitor from a staff room!

And that is true!! (KIngsley Park, Northampton)

P.S. And they have two security gaurds employed to keep a look out on all the goings on!
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Post Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:13 pm

TESCO OFFERING EMBROIDERED SCHOOLWEAR

Tesco are now launching a scheme to offer embroidered schoolwear, having already targeted 1,448 state schools in Birmingham, Leeds, Glasgow, Sheffield and Hertfordshire.

This development has been welcome by the LGA, Trading Standards and the Government who have all been pushing schools and Retailers to offer cheaper school uniforms.

Tesco are looking at offering an embroidered sweatshirt for £5.00 and an embroidered polo shirt for as little as £3.60 with them looking to offer other garments over time. And no doubt with Tesco starting, it will not be long before the other leading supermarket chains follow suit.
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Post Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:07 pm

Hi All,
I've got 2 kids going through school at the moment and we have to buy direct from the primary and high schools. The price for a sweat shirt with the crest and kids name was £14.00 and the polo's at £8.00. And by the way - this was for "Fruit of the loom".

2 years in they changed the logo and everybody had to buy all new stuff.

I'm afraid to say if Tesco got the contract to do our schools sweatshirts at £5.00 i'd be 1st in the queue.

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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:48 pm

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Hi,

just a few little thing to take into consideration for people supporting tesco:-

1. Go to your school and ask the question 'how much are you buying sweatshirts, polos from supliers?' i can guarantee it wont be £14 as most specialist schoolwear supliers do so for around £5-6. Schoools add money on which is a vital part of their income and to help people who cant affort uniform..... TESCOS WONT DO THAT

2. If you are going to supply a sweatshirt for £3.99 with embroidery what sort of standard is it going to be? completely sh*t. I have been in this business for 22 years now and i know from experiance that quality comes at a cost... why buy a sweatshirt for £3.99 that will last 6 months before needing a new one when you can get a specialist supplier to give you a quality garment that will last the year for a few pound more, none of this poor quality that gives you about 10 washes then its ready for the bin.

3. Returns. Whats going to happen when your sweatshirt gets ripped or because of the poor quality shrinks or fades?? I cant see tesco helping their much after 28 days???

4. Tesco wont send somebody round to your school to ask if everythings going well or give your school secretary chocolates at christmas time. Its a much more personal service that you receive off specialist suppliers.

5. This is going a little towards tesco but, as an embroiderer their are 2 busy periods in the year, before the summer holidays and just before the schools go back. Between that period sales are extremly low and tesco wont take masses of floor space up during winter to accomodate sweatshirts polos or fleeces that take up lots of room and and arent making much money.

SO BASICLY MY MESSAGE IS THIS TESCO WILL BE USELESS AT SCHOOL UNIFORM
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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:13 pm

Good reply Harry but i've already asked at the schools my kids go to and they don't charge anymore than the embroiderer does. Any money to be raised throughout term gets done by the "Friends of" the school with fundraising events.

Just found out that for the 1st time since it opened the primary school is going to send all parents to a local embroiderer who has won the contact. Prices will remain the same :D

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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:25 pm

3. Returns. Whats going to happen when your sweatshirt gets ripped or because of the poor quality shrinks or fades?? I cant see tesco helping their much after 28 days???

Hi Harry

A few valid points but as for the above (?), my sons school won't replace ripped or faded uniform after 2 days let alone 28!

Regarding the seceretery getting a box of chocolates I'm afraid I'd rather buy my wife some with the money I would save! (sorry)

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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:42 pm

John Cooper wrote:But you can't really apply that theory to the farming industry Rob.

It won't be long before we have un-manned Tesco superstores. We already have the option of un-manned tills in Tescos and other large stores.

The smart tag has already been developed by Tesco, just push your trolley stuffed with imported goods through the payment scanner and the total is automatically deducted from your account. end of the till girls, end of the agricultural industry, mass unemployment and we're left with financial services! Yuk.


I know what you mean john, and i do agree with you to an extent mate.

I guess small time farmers will be effected to a degree, but the large scale farmers will still profit and carry on trading as per usual.

We do work for one of the UK's Largest vegetable suppliers and i always thought their goods came from their own Fields and the like, but it doesnt. yes they use their own crops etc but also buy in at wolseale prices by the truck load. i guess the likes of Tesco will dictate what they pay, but i would also imagine that is because of volume they buy in at on a regular basis. so yes, their is still plenty business to be had, but yes, the small guy at the bottom of the ladder will find things more difficult, same thing applies with milk etc.

unmanned counters will effect employment, i have no doubt, but its nothing new really... again, i have a customer that has 5 un-manned sunbed salons. he is a good businessman and always working hard and looking for ways to earn money. but here "he is" setting up unmanned sunbed salons... is he looking on it is adding to the unemployment count or simply trying to cut his costs. and also, cut the massive headaches attached with employing staff?
He did this a couple of years ago and when he did i thought, "good idea" and well done him... but when we look at it being done on a much bigger scale... it doesn't feel right or fair?

I personally would go shopping on my own between midnight and 3am. sounds daft but there is no ques, hassle etc most of the time its done online now and the goods are delivered next morning. this is probably better and easier than the unmanned counters because i personally hate them...

I dont know, maybe i should worry... maybe we should vote with our feet.
But then again how long has B&Q been selling off the shelf signage and self adhesive letters? same applies with Cobbler shops and the like...
best not get too into it all and just do what you do best mate...

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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:25 pm

its called competition
people want the best goods at the cheapest price.
it matters not if its a sausage or a sign,

if tesco can supply their customers cheaper than what the local school supplier can, I don't see a problem.

Someone is supplying Tesco and in turn will be making a good living.


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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:08 pm

Peter Normington wrote:it matters not if its a sausage or a sign


yeh well... thats f its an off the shelf sign. :wink: :lol1:
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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:22 pm

Robert Lambie wrote:
Peter Normington wrote:it matters not if its a sausage or a sign


yeh well... thats f its an off the shelf sign. :wink: :lol1:


well that's what we are talking about with school uniforms, there is no creative input, just a production line, so if it can be done cheaper with scale of numbers, then the parents are going to benefit,

I dare say none of us would stop using supermarkets or economy airlines just because they are cheap.
if it can be done cheaper than others, then that is business, if you cant stand the heat, as the saying goes...

Yes, signs and creative work of any kind, that have exclusive and original content will always demand a premium.
But reproducing a school badge and a name tag is in my mind, just production

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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:26 pm

yeh, fair do peter... i understand and agree...
as i said with the potatoes and milk. i honestly still think, even those smaller firms offering same badges etc will have benefits over the likes of Tescos as has been said. all i can say is do not loose focus on your product because of what someone else is doing. i.e. Tesco. :-?
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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:41 pm

John Cooper wrote:But you can't really apply that theory to the farming industry Rob.

It won't be long before we have un-manned Tesco superstores. We already have the option of un-manned tills in Tescos and other large stores.

The smart tag has already been developed by Tesco, just push your trolley stuffed with imported goods through the payment scanner and the total is automatically deducted from your account. end of the till girls, end of the agricultural industry, mass unemployment and we're left with financial services! Yuk.


John I have to disagree, how are tescos and the like killing agriculture?
they dont get their spuds and veg from anywhere else do they?
if it wer not for the supermarkets, there would be very few arrible farms in the UK.

the farmers that make most money sell to the biggest buyers.

Having said that I dont buy produce that has been flown halfway round the world,


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Post Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:28 pm

Peter Normington wrote:the farmers that make most money sell to the biggest buyers.

True. But the farmers that sell to the biggest buyers are the biggest growers.

And they only make more money because they are dealing in bigger volumes. So yes, their profits are higher in absolute terms, but they will be considerably lower in percentage terms than their smaller brethren.

And comparing those is exactly the same as comparing Tesco with a corner shop.
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Post Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:02 am

Peter Normington wrote:
John Cooper wrote:But you can't really apply that theory to the farming industry Rob.

It won't be long before we have un-manned Tesco superstores. We already have the option of un-manned tills in Tescos and other large stores.

The smart tag has already been developed by Tesco, just push your trolley stuffed with imported goods through the payment scanner and the total is automatically deducted from your account. end of the till girls, end of the agricultural industry, mass unemployment and we're left with financial services! Yuk.


John I have to disagree, how are tescos and the like killing agriculture?
they dont get their spuds and veg from anywhere else do they?
if it wer not for the supermarkets, there would be very few arrible farms in the UK.

the farmers that make most money sell to the biggest buyers.

Having said that I dont buy produce that has been flown halfway round the world,


Peter


Peter, Being a farmers son i can can tell you TESCOS are the main reason why Farming is in the state it is, ON IT'S KNEES !!!!!

They are that big, they sell all the local produce as loss leaders, forcing the price down, they get their money back on other products. British farmers are being killed at the moment. yet they use the WE SELL BRITISH as being their main selling point.
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Post Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:56 am

15 years ago I was in the brewing industry. I could never understand why the company I worked for produced what was effectively watered down (weaker) ales and lagers for ASDA at prices that barely made a profit for the company I worked for. I was told that the reason was that ASDA would not stock our premium brands on their shelves if the company refused to supply ASDA with their "own branded" ales and lagers.

The company I used to work for ("Scottish and Newcastle Breweries - Laterly, Scottish Courage") now no longer exists having been swallowed up by the competion. All the premium products we used to make are no longer available- but you can still buy the "watered down" versions of ASDA Ale and ASDA lager...


...The bottom line is I believe these large supermarket companies are not in our long term best interest. Eventually they destroy all competition and become the monoply suppliers.

They are evil. But we buy from them because in the "short term" they provide us with low prices. But longer term they eradicate the opposition and we end up paying for it in higher prices and restricted choice of products.
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Post Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:14 pm

Phill wrote:15 years ago I was in the brewing industry. I could never understand why the company I worked for produced what was effectively watered down (weaker) ales and lagers for ASDA at prices that barely made a profit for the company I worked for. I was told that the reason was that ASDA would not stock our premium brands on their shelves if the company refused to supply ASDA with their "own branded" ales and lagers.

The company I used to work for ("Scottish and Newcastle Breweries - Laterly, Scottish Courage") now no longer exists having been swallowed up by the competion. All the premium products we used to make are no longer available- but you can still buy the "watered down" versions of ASDA Ale and ASDA lager...


...The bottom line is I believe these large supermarket companies are not in our long term best interest. Eventually they destroy all competition and become the monoply suppliers.

They are evil. But we buy from them because in the "short term" they provide us with low prices. But longer term they eradicate the opposition and we end up paying for it in higher prices and restricted choice of products.


Phil, Supermarkets have been common in England for at least 30 years, so when does this "long term " policy kick in?

As for choice of products, well, we have never had a better choice, far greater than any corner shop could even come close to.
As for killing the farming industry, that may have been more to do with governments and subsidies rather than the supermarkets?

The consumer is king, and although some believe the supermarkets dictate what we buy, I am of the opinion that they supply what the consumer asks for.

To illustrate this in relevant terms, most of us here sell vinyl, as opposed to brush work, simply because it does the job and is affordable, so are we responsible for eradicating the traditional sign painter?

Just food for thought.

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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:22 am

The problem is the supermarket giants have massive buying power and as such dictate terms and conditions to all their suppliers. Farmers are squeezed to the point of oblivion and even strong large companies (like the brewing company I mentioned above) find they are squeezed into submission by the buying power these companies now have.

One thing is for sure - the only companies growing and expanding in Britain at the moment are the large supermarkets.

Britain used to be known as a "nation of shopkeepers", pretty soon we'll be known as a nation of Supermarkets and Bankers . :-?

The consumer is king, and although some believe the supermarkets dictate what we buy, I am of the opinion that they supply what the consumer asks for.

My favourite beer of all time is Gillespies Stout. You can't buy it any more because the company that used to make it no longer exists.

Expect the same thing to happen to most of Cadburys chocolate brands :-?
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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:43 am

Phill wrote:
Expect the same thing to happen to most of Cadburys chocolate brands :-?


I'm stockpiling Curly Wurly's as we speak! :o
thanks for the heads up Phill...a true socialist! :D
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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:00 am

Choice of product? I would beg to differ.

If I need to buy, say, a new jacket or pair of trousers, I go to Leicester and search the high street, but can't find anything I like. What do I do then?

It's no good going to Northampton or Peterborough because they have just the same shops selling the same stuff. And that's due to the big clothing retailers enjoying the same sort of monopoly as enjoyed by the supermarkets.

How do the banks manage to rip us off at every turn? Because they also have been allowed to merge and take over their competitors, to the point that there are only four of them and can charge what they like.

No. Takeovers and mergers are always bad news, placing more and more power into fewer and fewer hands.
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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:34 am

John Childs wrote:Choice of product? I would beg to differ.

If I need to buy, say, a new jacket or pair of trousers, I go to Leicester and search the high street, but can't find anything I like. What do I do then?

It's no good going to Northampton or Peterborough because they have just the same shops selling the same stuff. And that's due to the big clothing retailers enjoying the same sort of monopoly as enjoyed by the supermarkets.

How do the banks manage to rip us off at every turn? Because they also have been allowed to merge and take over their competitors, to the point that there are only four of them and can charge what they like.

No. Takeovers and mergers are always bad news, placing more and more power into fewer and fewer hands.


Nothing to do with monopolies etc. John.
they stopped making our fashion choices years ago :bike;

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