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Phillip Jhonson

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Post Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:22 pm

What do you think of the new handy laminators???

I have seen new hand applied lamination tools which i find pretty fab. I would like to know what people think of these compared to the regular large laminators. These hand laminator's appear to be faster and less hassle compared to the regular ones. Also how would these work for vehicle wraps?? Would be nice to hear from people who have used these. They are also known as the big squeege.

there is a video of this on:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 774080065#

:o

thanx people :)
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Post Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:46 pm

if you can use it it is fine.

some people can but it is not as easy as it looks.
I saw one being demonstrated at sign ireland, the guy doing the demo,
had to do it 3 times on a small print, about a3 before getting it to work.
its a very expensive bit of foamex, with a bit of felt stuck to the edge!

I certainly would not risk expensive wrap vinyl to something that looks a bit hit and miss, and if doing it at 1300mm or more by several metres long
then i think it would be difficult to master,

Reminds me of one of those kitchen gadgets that look great in the store or in the advert, you buy it and and use once then put it at the back of the cupboard
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Post Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:52 pm

WOW!! take it its worth making it at home then :) foamex and a half cut bog pipe :D
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Post Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:27 pm

A3 easy when ur familar with sign making techniques but bigger proves awkward, video isn't showing me a big enough print
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Post Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:34 pm

you don't/can't get the right amount of pressure for using it on vehicle wraps.

i have seen these before a while back...
the device certainly has its purposed in the small sign shop and would help allot when coming to flood-coats and laminating flat sign prints, but also has as much as, or more limitations ide imagine.

i don't know the cost of them, so cant comment on that. but if its silly money then i can see the average sign maker making their own.
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Post Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:11 pm

Made my own 'laminator' years ago at 650mm & 400mm wide.

Use them every day for squeegeeing down application tape - one go - and it's done.

Also use it for mounting & laminating prints up to 600 wide.

Made from...100mm wide x 650mm - 3mm aluminium, strip of 1" foam d/s tape over the 'working edge' as a cushion & covered in polyester roller-blind fabric as a quite friction free surface.

Works a treat and cost...nothing.

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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:31 am

We use something like that for cleaning water off vans before applying vinyl. :D
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:10 am

I've had a set for several years . What Rob said is pretty spot on. great for app tape and flood coating 1200 x 2400 sheets.we have used them on the job to redo a sign that needed redoing ( Not ours) and found it a bit awkward in confined yet large areas. Gloria's son used ours to flood coat several hundred meters of glass awning, worked a treat mind you he is 6 foot 7 inches and about 100 feet across the shoulders,He used to row for Australia came third in the junior Olympics and as strong as an oxen. which all helps when doing large areas.they seem to be very popular in the states.
cheers Mike
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:15 am

David thats really interesting!! was gonna fork out 60 quid for one lol!! did you make the top roll holder part is well where the roll sits?? also have you ever laminated vehicle graphics with it??
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:18 am

Michael if that's the case vehicle wrapping should work a treat!?? I respect that it wont be as good as a roll laminator but for someone without a roll laminator and a decent flat table cant see anything going wrong? :wink:

Ive been subbing out all my lamination for vehicles wraps and thought time to keep some money if i can!
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:24 am

hi Phillip
We have never tried to laminate a large print or any print for that matter we have always subbed out our large prints. Ir you can afford to stuff up the print, give it a try. Have a few practice runs first as there does appear to be a knack to getting it just right.
cheers Mike :)
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:17 am

Phillip Jhonson wrote:was gonna fork out 60 quid for one lol!! did you make the top roll holder part is well where the roll sits?? also have you ever laminated vehicle graphics with it??


if its only £60 quid mate ide ditch the idea of making one and just buy a proper one.


Phillip Jhonson wrote:Michael if that's the case vehicle wrapping should work a treat!?? I respect that it wont be as good as a roll laminator but for someone without a roll laminator and a decent flat table cant see anything going wrong?


how about de-lamination of prints once on the vehicle, silvering, creases, bubbles, lamination not running true to the print. :-?

sore knees, bad back, blisters on your hands. :lol1:

ok im exaggerating now but if your laminating the likes of a full car/van wrap then its not going to be easy and all of the above WILL apply.

as i said, the product certainly has its uses and ideal for a small sign shop but if your doing allot of laminating on the likes of vehicle wraps then you cannot afford to skrimp on this. you will cost your customer and more so yourself, no end of headaches.

for laminating and mounting of flat panels at up to a metre wide at most. for all it costs, idea buy one and see how it went...
for vehicle graphics and anything wider than a metre ide not even go there.


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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:39 am

I saw these at Sign Ireland.......looked like 5mm Foamex with a felt edge.......so I used some scrap I had sitting around, cut various lengths to 120mm wide, chamfered the edge and glued some felt from a craft shop in place and they work really well for application tape and small lamination.

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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:44 am

John Thomson wrote:I saw these at Sign Ireland.......looked like 5mm Foamex with a felt edge.......so I used some scrap I had sitting around, cut various lengths to 120mm wide, chamfered the edge and glued some felt from a craft shop in place and they work really well for application tape and small lamination.

Like this John?

http://dorotape.co.uk/khxc/gbu0-prodshow/ASLANSQ.html

It doesn't say on their website, but I'm sure that Doro do them in various lengths. Certainly we have a selection.

Something like this is fine for applying large areas of application tape, but I wouldn't laminate with them. Can't get the pressure.
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:10 am

This is the original........I

http://www.bigsqueegee.com/

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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:06 am

John Thomson wrote:This is the original........I

http://www.bigsqueegee.com/

That's better.

I still think I would only use one for applying app tape though, not lamination. (unless I was desperate and had no alternative)

Still, it looks useful and, like most other gear, if it's used within it's limits, it would probably be a handy tool to have around.
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:22 pm

what about say 760 wide prints in a 3 meter length?? any good for that??

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