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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:05 pm

Interested in job lot of equipment

Hi, I am interested in getting in to signwriting and I came across the following job lot of equipment for sale secondhand. Is it good value or not ? I know 13,000 euro ( about £ 11,700 ) is a lot of money but I gather Gerber is a good make and the person selling it has offered to spend a few hours showing me how to use it. Thanks in advance for any replies.

"GERBER 24" PLOTTER

with blades and spare parts.

comes with lots of rolls of 24" vinyl


GERBER EDGE FX- THERMAL PRINTER (latest model)

comes with spare parts also

lots of edge foil & caddies.


GERBER Gsx 15" SPROCKET PLOTTER

(for use with gerber edge)

comes with lots of rolls of 15" vinyl.


T-SHIRT HEAT PRESS

comes with attachments for printing mugs & plates

also some rolls of t-shirt heat transfer vinyl/flock for use with 24" plotter


SIGN TOOLS

scalpols, squegees, aluminium sign corner rounder guillotine worth €250


SOME SHEETS OF CORRIBOARD & ALU

SIGN BLANKS.


COMPUTER TO RUN ALL MACHINES.


ALL EQUIPMENT BOUGHT IN FEB 2008.

As good as new, best equipment on the market.

SELL ONLY AS LOT OR GERBER EDGE FX & GSX 15" SPROCKET PLOTTER ( €10,000)

€13,000 o.n.o "
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:19 pm

Well I saw a Versacamm sold recently for £6000 complete with software, a Sony Vaio laptop, new 440ml inks and lots of vinyl etc.

This being a 760mm print & cut would have been a far better proposition.
Personally I think that the Gerbers have had their day, especially as digital printers such as the Versacamm are coming on to the used market more often.
The width of the Gerber FX would be too small for most sign projects, more suited to small graphics and labels.

Not a deal I would jump at personally.
A good 610mm cutter new at say £1100 (Graphtec, Roland, Summa), Coreldraw or some sign software and some basic sign tools etc would get you going far better and a great deal cheaper IMHO.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:20 pm

Too much imo.

You may be better off getting a NEW PC, Software, Versacamm (or similar) & Heat Press. Unless you have a particular requirement for a themal machine?
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:33 pm

Does it come with some sort of sign software to run the Gerber machines?
(Omega, Graphics Advantage etc)
If it has an older sign software program, does it include the dongle?
Those are the first questions I'd ask.
Love....Jill
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:38 pm

Thanks for your replies.

The seller says it comes with the software ( graphix advantage: composer). He says this software is an extra €1000 when buying new, it comes with a dongle for the back of the computer to prevent copying.

He says when he bought it new it cost €15,500 for:

The gerber edge fx printer
the 15" ngerber plotter with it

The 24" gerber plotter
and the software package that runs all of them.

along with this he is selling :

the heat press for t-shirts
aluminium corner rounder worth €250
rolls of vinyl both 24" and 15" sprocketed
application tape
heat gun, squegees, scalpols etc.

corriboard
some dibond (aluminium coated sheets for outdoor signs)

contacts for suppliers of vinyl etc, t-shirts and a training day to outline the basics of using the equipment

So with this he says I would be saving 4,500 approx. He says
granted the guarantee has run out but the equipment is as good as new.


I think the seller may be asking too much for it , although the advantage is that I get a days training. Its hard though to get good equipment at a reasonable price secondhand....but on balance I am thinking I may be better off just starting with a cheaper cutter. I have read a lot on this excellent website and at least I know not to go for a cheap chinese cutter on ebay.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:40 pm

Patrick, it is too much money! how can you be saving 4,500??

Buy some new equipment with some proper training not a couple of hours.

If you are prepared to pay that much for something 2nd hand you have no worries.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:50 pm

I am totally with Brian on this,
an edge is only good if you have a certain type of work.
and totting up the job lot I would not go more than 5k for the lot
it is second hand and for around 12K you could buy a 1600mm versaart printer,

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:51 pm

And if he bought the software at the same time as the FX he would have bought the Omega software. It changed from Advantage to Omega in 2000.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:52 pm

I bought Graphix Advantage 6.2 in 1998 for $900, as far as I know it won't run on anything newer than Win98SE.
It's pretty much obsolete I think.
I think you could invest in new equipment for cheaper.
Corel X3 (not the newest) is around $50 and I just bought a 24" Graphtec plotter for about $1800.
Not sure about the other stuff.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:42 pm

[quote="Patrick Smyth"]Thanks for your replies.

The seller says it comes with the software ( graphix advantage: composer). He says this software is an extra €1000 when buying new, it comes with a dongle for the back of the computer to prevent copying.

He says when he bought it new it cost €15,500 for:

The gerber edge fx printer
the 15" ngerber plotter with it 2000.00

The 24" gerber plotter
and the software package that runs all of them. 400.00

along with this he is selling :

the heat press for t-shirts
aluminium corner rounder worth €250
rolls of vinyl both 24" and 15" sprocketed
application tape
heat gun, squegees, scalpols etc. 250

corriboard
some dibond (aluminium coated sheets for outdoor signs) 250 depending on quanity

contacts for suppliers of vinyl etc, t-shirts

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and a training day to outline the basics of using the equipment

If he says a day will learn all you need to know, it's no wonder he's selling!!!

So with this he says I would be saving 4,500 approx. He says
granted the guarantee has run out but the equipment is as good as new.


I think the seller may be asking too much for it , although the advantage is that I get a days training.

Total value 3-3.5K EURO Max, if you need training i'll come down and give you a day for 10K

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:02 pm

i picked up my grenadier 54 inch print and cut for 8k, 1k would get you a rude computer few hundred quid on design and rip software and as ian says uksb toolbar has all suppliers youll need, in your shoes id swerve the edge for that sort of money he's dreaming!!!
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:36 pm

I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested :D

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:01 pm

Peter Normington wrote:I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested :D

Peter


but would there be biccies? :D
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:06 am

Harry Cleary wrote:
Peter Normington wrote:I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested :D

Peter


but would there be biccies? :D


No, just jaffa cakes :wink:
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:21 am

Neil Speirs wrote:
Harry Cleary wrote:
Peter Normington wrote:I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested :D

Peter


but would there be biccies? :D


No, just jaffa cakes :wink:


No, No, Jammie Dodgers :wink: which as it happens are made in a factory barely a mile from me. Wagon Wheels too :D
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:30 am

I'm sure Spandex were selling their Gerber FX + Omega + Plotter for around £7000 recently.
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:30 pm

Neil Davey wrote:Wagon Wheels too :D

Sorry for the hijack - but this is important. :D

Neil, Wagon Wheels are nigh on impossible to source around here. If Morrison's have run out, and they usually have, then there are none to be had.

Any chance of popping in to the factory and getting me a catering pack? :D
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:12 pm

Party in John Childs!!!! :D :D (haven't had a Wagon Wheel in ages :( )
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:56 pm

Harry Cleary wrote: (haven't had a Wagon Wheel in ages :( )

Neither have we. :(

But if I can get some, then you are all welcome to share.

not too many though!
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:02 pm

you have to grin to get them in :D
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:54 pm

Harry Cleary wrote:Party in John Childs!!!! :D :D (haven't had a Wagon Wheel in ages :( )


I have one just about everyday with my 3pm cuppa.

Loads in Tesco's (?)
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Posh git! :D
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Post Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:49 am

I always hated wagon wheels
sickly sweet crappy taste.
The original ones were made by Burtons biscuits, blackpool and slough, if memory serves me.

one of those childhood things that were, or are not the same as they used to be,

they were much bigger though when i was a lad, at least a foot across!

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Post Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:28 am

Peter Normington wrote:The original ones were made by Burtons biscuits, blackpool and slough, if memory serves me.

one of those childhood things that were, or are not the same as they used to be,

they were much bigger though when i was a lad, at least a foot across!

Correct on every count. They used to come in unsealed envelopes as well. H&S would have a fit about that today.

Still like 'em though. :D
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Post Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:33 pm

Neil Davey wrote:
Neil Speirs wrote:
Harry Cleary wrote:
Peter Normington wrote:I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested :D

Peter


but would there be biccies? :D


No, just jaffa cakes :wink:


No, No, Jammie Dodgers :wink: which as it happens are made in a factory barely a mile from me. Wagon Wheels too :D


That's jammie! just a mile down the road
better get on ya wheels and buy up before the next crunch
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Post Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:22 pm

John Childs wrote:
Neil Davey wrote:Wagon Wheels too :D

Sorry for the hijack - but this is important. :D

Neil, Wagon Wheels are nigh on impossible to source around here. If Morrison's have run out, and they usually have, then there are none to be had.

Any chance of popping in to the factory and getting me a catering pack? :D


I'll see what I can do John (:) get them their wagons in a circle boys (:)
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Post Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:27 pm

John Singh wrote:That's jammie! just a mile down the road
better get on ya wheels and buy up before the next crunch


Worst thing is or best I'm not sure, when I drive home past the factory the smell is fantastic.
All those biscuits being baked/cooked makes me old tummy rumble (puppy-eyes)
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Post Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:23 pm

Neil Davey wrote:I'll see what I can do John

Great.

If you can do anything, just drop me a PM with how much I owe.

:D

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