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Shop or Industrial unit..What's your choice?

Shop or Industrial unit..What's your choice?

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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:41 pm

Shop or Industrial unit..What's your choice?

I'm considering dumping the shop I'm in for a unit.
From your experience what would you do?
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:55 pm

Well Karl, you've been here, so you know what I'm going to say, but it all depends on what you want to do, and who you want your customers to be.

For instance, selling one-off T shirts and boy racer stickers, you need a shop front. On the other hand, livery on vans for large corporates, you need a unit. And I'm sure that there's shades of grey in between those extremes.

For me, a shop is a definite no go. I couldn't be doing with every second passer by coming in, wanting a chat about their ten pound purchase and generally wasting my time. It would drive me nuts.

That's not even taking into consideration the parking problems, and other difficulties which you get in a shopping area.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:05 pm

A unit with a very small shop type area for me. I can comfortably get a van inside to sign up and can still deal with passing trade.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:15 pm

Definitely a unit!

I've only been in my workshop 3 months now but love it, no daftie's or time wasters anymore :D

Previously spent the last 15 years paying over the top high street rents & rates just to let these daftie's in to waste half my working day :cry:
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:25 pm

An industrial unit would be my main choice.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:52 pm

Trying to find one at the right price and location is a nightmare. And the money up front and legal fees are back breaking. :-?
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:03 pm

Have you tried your local rag? sometimes you'll find small units to rent in classified sections or maybe here http://www.adtrader.co.uk/classhome.php ... er_id=8978
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:19 pm

Nothing in either the local paper or on the site mate.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:29 pm

I think Karl started this topic before.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:40 pm

Come again? If I did I can't remember.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:51 pm

Karl Williams wrote:Come again? If I did I can't remember.

Well, you are getting on a bit now. :D
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:58 pm

John Childs wrote:
Karl Williams wrote:Come again? If I did I can't remember.

Well, you are getting on a bit now. :D



Long way to catch you up buddy! :wink: :lol1: :lol1:
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:51 pm

we work from a council owned unit, rent is good and so are rates, security its safe.

we have built a service counter/office where people off the street come on to the business park to buy one offs, however we have the room to get vehicles and the like in.

unit for me..
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:54 pm

just finishing off our unit 1750sqft hoping to put a shop front in after xmas to allow direct access in to the new show room. When i finally finish plaster boarding it :oops: Hopefully best of both worlds.

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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:20 pm

our unit comes with a fancy stairwell and corridors that allowed us to change it into a showroom... very useful
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:17 am

My choice would be a unit with road frontage on to a busy road and building must have lots of space for signage of all types.

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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:30 am

Unit from me too.

This is our 3rd unit, starting in a 400sqft council unit, then a 1000sqft council unit now we are in 2400sqft which is on a commercial lease. Having said that we built a room which will eventually be a showroom/reception.

We now get the work out of the door so much quicker and with less wastage than ever.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do though.

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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:27 pm

Although we are in an industrial unit - the main entrance is set out like a small shop with a counter and lots of signs on display. This allows us to deal with any walk in enquiries while keeping people away from the main production area. It has a shop like feel but is not on a busy high street - rather tucked away in an industrial estate.

The main advantage of a shop must be more passing trade. Offset against this is the higher rents and rates of a high street shop - and the limited workshop space
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:43 pm

That's a nice reception area Phill..very welcoming.

Used to have similar in my old unit, not as posh as that though.
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:11 pm

Phill,

In the famous words of Churchill (the dog)

"No, no, no, no, nooooo..........."

Cant believe you put screws through the face of the sign in front of the counter.....

Might want to look at https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=41751&start=0 for handy hints and tips on signs

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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:43 pm

Graeme, it was done like that for a reason, Phill uses that sign to show customers just how ugly signs look when fitted with fixings showing.... HONEST :lol1: :wink:
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:46 pm

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:19 am

Well, after a bit of negotiating and brown-nosing I've managed to get a good unit facing the main road in an industrial estate. Even better it's closer to home. So hopefully it's bye bye to the high-street numptys that want crappy little boy racer stickers for £7.99. It'll be a couple of weeks before the move but it's a nice xmas pressie to look forward to. :D :D
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:21 am

Nice one Karl, I'll have to come around for a visit AFTER you have settled in :roll: :lol1:

cheers

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:32 am

Thanks mate..Anytime, the kettles always on. :wink:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:46 am

Nice one Karl. Congratulations.

I notice that the votes are twelve to one in favour of a unit, so hopefully it will be the right decision for you.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:48 am

Thanks for that John. I'm sure it will be the right decision.
And Mr. Lambie...from now on I'll do as I'm told and take your advice mate. :wink:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:50 am

Karl Williams wrote:Thanks mate..Anytime, the kettles always on. :wink:


Will there be biccies? :D
Well done Karl...good luck with the move.
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Karl Williams wrote:Thanks mate..Anytime, the kettles always on. :wink:


Will there be biccies? :D
Well done Karl...good luck with the move.


Hob nobs and Jammie Dodgers mate. :wink:
Cheers.
I'm glad to see the wigs gone! :lol1: :lol1:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:52 am

Someone stole it!...I think Lambie wants it for the weekend! :D
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:53 am

It's to big for him mate. You won't be able to see him. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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Here he is!
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:58 am

Karl Williams wrote:Hob nobs and Jammie Dodgers mate.

Wot? (oogle)


No Jaffa Cakes? :(
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:00 pm

John Childs wrote:
Karl Williams wrote:Hob nobs and Jammie Dodgers mate.

Wot? (oogle)


No Jaffa Cakes? :(


What ever you want John......I'll pop down Lidl with me credit card just for you :wink:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:21 pm

Brilliant news Karl :thumbsup:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:20 pm

All the best mate. Moving into a unit was the best thing I did.

Hope it all works well for you.

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:36 pm

Thanks lads. :wink:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:56 pm

I tHought Jaffa Cakes were Cakes!?
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:12 pm

if you go with the principle that a biscuit goes soft & a cake goes hard when left out, well it's a cake......mine never get the chance to go hard :wink:
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Paul Humble wrote:I tHought Jaffa Cakes were Cakes!?



Nope, definitely look like biccies to me. :o
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:54 pm

Karl Williams wrote: I've managed to get a good unit facing the main road in an industrial estate. Even better it's closer to home.


Well done Karl,
sounds like a good find..what size is the unit?
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:29 pm

I don't know mate. I just looked at the place and thought this is ideal.
It's got a roller shutter at each end and more than enough space to build a print room and office inside. There's plenty of space to fit 1 long wheel based sprinter in there with plenty room left to walk around comfortably.
I may just go with the whole place open planned yet but as you could understand I've got loads of ideas going through my head for the layout.
No more working in the cold or rain trying to get vans done.....Bliss! :wink:
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:59 pm

double check the rates and rent the rest of expenses you know.
units are cold and damp unless you do something about it so a printer room is favorite.
i used to be more open plan but the printer was suffering in the winter now its in its own room and the quality stays constant and little problems have disappeared.
what you waiting for Christmas :D
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:15 pm

Chris Wool wrote:double check the rates and rent the rest of expenses you know.
units are cold and damp unless you do something about it so a printer room is favorite.
i used to be more open plan but the printer was suffering in the winter now its in its own room and the quality stays constant and little problems have disappeared.
what you waiting for Christmas :D


Print room it is then. The rates I'm told are around £1800 p.a. mate.
it's dearer than here but I should be able to get that reduced before I move in.
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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:57 pm

Karl Williams wrote:
Chris Wool wrote:double check the rates and rent the rest of expenses you know.
units are cold and damp unless you do something about it so a printer room is favorite.
i used to be more open plan but the printer was suffering in the winter now its in its own room and the quality stays constant and little problems have disappeared.
what you waiting for Christmas :D


Print room it is then. The rates I'm told are around £1800 p.a. mate.
it's dearer than here but I should be able to get that reduced before I move in.


Karl
bear in mind that they are re-valuing for 2010 business rates

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:30 pm

but then again, small business can get a reduction based on the rent
so make sure you apply for any concession

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:20 pm

Which is scalable from 50% down subject to the rateable, so when it increases in the revaluation fewer people will be entitled.

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/ac ... 1073792393

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Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:58 pm

Another example of creative accounting. The councils proudly boast that they have kept the poundage rate the same as in previous years (but neglect to mention that they have revalued business premises). This means that even though the poundage rate remains the same - small businesses end up paying a lot more because the rateable value of their premises has gone up.

The crooked politicians try and justify this because property prices have increased over the years but business premises have not been revalued for many years. The gullible general public swallow the lies and propaganda - and small businesses continue to swim upstream against the greedy unscrupulous councils that would bleed the business community dry if they could get away with it.

Did I ever mention I have little faith in the integrity of our local concils :roll:

They're all politically motivated rather than serving the local community which should be their true purpose.

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