my invisible text
Categories
  • TIMELINE

Issues printing from PDF

<<

Shane McNamee

1 Star Contributor

Posts: 16

Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:51 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:33 am

Issues printing from PDF

Hi all!
We have two Roland printers, a XC-540 and a XJ-640, running off Versaworks, and recently are being supplied with artwork saved as PDF's, more often than not produced from InDesign.
Reciently, more than before anyway, we are having issues with the printing, with discolored 'boxes' around text or cropped images, or with 'invisible' lines or other hidden elements printing out when they shouldn't.
Has anyone else had similar problems, or know of an effective solution for this (other than saving everything out as a JPEG?
TTFN,
Shane
<<

Gary Birch

User avatar

5 Star Contributor

Posts: 2591

Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:21 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:42 am

Yeah I have had exactly the same issues in the past but we ended up saving the artwork as a tiff which solved the problem. Sorry I can't help in any other way though.

Cheers

Gary
<<

Dan Osterbery

User avatar

5 Star Contributor

Posts: 1449

Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:10 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:09 pm

i think it is something to do with transparencys, we have had similiar problems, with pdf's from illustrator as well, save to tiff has removed the problem, but would love to get a real solution if theres a genius out there willing to help!!
<<

Shane McNamee

1 Star Contributor

Posts: 16

Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:51 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:40 pm

The main problems I would have with saving files out as TIFFs or JPEGs are that some of the jobs we work on might have 30-40 separate files, and would take ages to work through them all, and also that we often work with very large graphic areas broken into mutiple tiles (we've done wall graphics that are 3m high x 20m wide for example), where saving as a TIFF or JPEG would create such a a huge file, that even if done at scale, could result it files of 1gig or more, making them effectively un-ripable.
<<

John Childs

User avatar

Premium Member
Premium Member

Posts: 6591

Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2002 11:19 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:46 pm

We normally save and print eps with no problems, but recently we received a couple of files from a client which wouldn't print out one item in the image.

Saved and printed as a pdf and it came out perfectly.

I fiddled around with it for ages, but couldn't figure out why. :(
<<

Jon Marshall

5 Star Contributor

Posts: 1135

Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:57 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:43 pm

I think it's because adobe keep updating the PDF engine and the RIPS aren't up to date with it. I think PDF is up to 1.7 now whereas many RIPS only support up to 1.4 or so.
<<

Simon Strom

User avatar

5 Star Contributor

Posts: 633

Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:42 pm





Post Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:56 pm

Yeah, if you have Acrobat Pro you can save backwards to a previous version. That method of course won't help if ya don't have it. :D
<<

Lee Attewell

User avatar

5 Star Contributor

Posts: 954

Joined: Tue Oct 01, 2002 4:02 am





Post Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:38 am

Flatten transparencies before pdfing them. That should work.

I'm having pdf issues with my computer but that's another issue
<<

Alan Drury

User avatar

L-Gold Member
L-Gold Member

Posts: 2148

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:29 pm





Post Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:35 am

Could easily be a pdf version issue
Example:
In Corel put a drop shadow on a bit of text and place that on top of a coloured rectangle so it overlaps the rectangle edge, print to Acrobat using 1.4. View pdf close up in Acrobat and you will see that the immediate area of the rectangle where the shadow overlaps has been converted to a bitmap and dsplays as such. Later versions of PDF are much better at handling transparencies but possibly the RIP can.t handle them so Lee's advice of flattening any transparencies may well sort the problem.
The transparency issue is a pdf and postscript thing not Corel.
Alan D
<<

David J Evans

Trade Supplier
Trade Supplier

Posts: 5

Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:06 pm





Post Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:23 pm

Versaworks doesnt have a PDF interpretter instead it use a library (XPDF) to convert the PDF to EPS / PS. This is my understanding and is why the PDF support in Versaworks is a bit unreliable mainly in the area of transparency as thats not supported in EPS / PS and has to be flatten out.

Its best to use EPS, so that Acrobat or Illustrator flatten the transparency information. This should work more reliably with Versaworks but can still cause some other problems particularly if you have areas that are partially transparent as the resulting EPS gets complicated with clipping paths and as all the flattened data is bitmap data can cause color issues / mismatches depending on ICC input profiles and if Pantone colors are used.

Best regards

-David
<<

Chris Wool

User avatar

L-Gold Member
L-Gold Member

Posts: 7020

Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:02 pm





Post Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:54 pm

John Childs wrote:We normally save and print eps with no problems, but recently we received a couple of files from a client which wouldn't print out one item in the image.

Saved and printed as a pdf and it came out perfectly.

I fiddled around with it for ages, but couldn't figure out why. :(


just had that john and was a transparency on one of the layers that ilistrator did not understand, but the pdf would be ok. ?
<<

John Childs

User avatar

Premium Member
Premium Member

Posts: 6591

Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2002 11:19 pm





Post Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:10 pm

Cheers Chris. I'll check it out. :D

Return to Adobe Software



 

About
Contact
Board Rules
Membership
Terms & Conditions

 

Signapp - iPhone & iPad
Signapp - Android
Vehicle Wrap Training
Vinyl Application Training
Vehicle Wrap Accreditation
UK Sign Group
Site Membership
Advertising
Videos
British Signs & Graphics Assoc.

 

 Facebook
 Twitter
 Youtube
 Linkedin

 

Who is Online

In total there are 60 users online ::
5 registered, 0 hidden and 55 guests
[based on past 5 minutes]

Most users ever online was
370 on Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:02 pm

Registered users:
Chris Wilson, Luke Culpin, Simon Worrall, Vince Francis

Copyright © 2000 - 2019 Robert Lambie