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Liam Pattison

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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:11 pm

Really stupid beginner question about converting to curves

Hi,
i use to work in a sign shop some time ago, now i'm starting to cut vinyl on my own.
I just can't remember if i'm always supposed to convert text to curves before cutting it.
Do you only convert text to curves if you want to edit the shapes within the font in some way or do you always need to convert to curves before cutting text.

I know it's a really silly question (sorry), i just can't quite remember.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could clear this up for me.

Many thanks

Liam
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:14 pm

No, you can cut it once it has a hairline.
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:15 pm

You don't always have to convert to curves, just like you said, only really if you want to edit nodes to change the shape of some letters. Remember some font might require welding though if letter are touching each other, namely script fonts.

Hope this helps
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:21 pm

Well, well, well. It seems that no matter how long I do this job, there is something to learn.

I though it was necessary to convert to curves because the resulting postscript outlines were what got converted to HPGL for the plotter blade to follow.

Or does it depend on which software? Because, on our system, if a line is in the file, even with no fill or stroke, it will be cut.
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:24 pm

Also bear in mind when you convert to curves it will usually have a adverse effect on the quality of the font. Only convert to curves as you say if you are altering the font, or if you are exporting to give the file to somebody that doesn't have that font.
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:31 pm

That's absolutely brilliant thanks. I had cut a few things as a practice, but just laid out my first proper job (two transit connects). So i wanted to get everything 100% correct before i cut it all out.

I really don't know what i'd do without all your advice,

thanks again

Liam
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:02 pm

wow I thought you had to convert as well.
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:07 pm

Also if you convert to curves you lose the font information. So if you come back to the job at a later date & need to change the text you need to remember what font you used. Annoying if you have made a spelling mistake!
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:10 pm

I normally make a layout of the sign, then pre cutting copy it all, and so all weld etc. that need doing, and then if changes need to be made in the future I can always still edit the original text without losing what font i've used.

Sometimes I get lazy and forget to do this though. :-?
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:10 pm

Brian Hays wrote:Also if you convert to curves you lose the font information. So if you come back to the job at a later date & need to change the text you need to remember what font you used. Annoying if you have made a spelling mistake!


I always save a version before converting......honest! :oops:
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:12 pm

Harry, we must have physcic (spelling?) links, same time and same posts. :lol1:
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:14 pm

Harry Cleary wrote:
I always save a version before converting......honest! :oops:


And I bet you never making any spelling mistake either. :lol1:
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:19 pm

Glad some other people may have found something out here as well, now i don't feel quite as stupid for asking.
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:22 pm

Brian Hays wrote:
Harry Cleary wrote:
I always save a version before converting......honest! :oops:


And I bet you never making any spelling mistake either. :lol1:


off coarse not. :D
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:28 pm

Next time I think I have a stupid question to ask I ain't holding back I'm just gonna come right out with it!

I've been saving two files for every job!
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:58 pm

Brian Hays wrote:Also if you convert to curves you lose the font information. So if you come back to the job at a later date & need to change the text you need to remember what font you used.


Yup!

Just spent an age finding the name, downloading & re-loading Aristocrat Regular for customer who wants more text
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:49 pm

But be aware that the centre of underlined text is not true centre, always outline or expand text to establish true centre.

Cheers
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:44 pm

Jeremy Howes wrote:But be aware that the centre of underlined text is not true centre, always outline or expand text to establish true centre.

Cheers
Jeremy


That's correct, I also have to convert as my cutting software does not read fonts :-?
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:55 pm

there is no such thing as a stupid question !!! it is some thing you don't know the answer to :D


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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:35 pm

Lynn wrote:there is no such thing as a stupid question !!! it is some thing you don't know the answer to :D


Lynn


What about....'Why does your bum look so big in that?' :oops: :oops: (now, that was stupid!)
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:41 pm

:lol1: :lol1:


now you've got me trying to think of something else really stupid to say harry :D

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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:00 pm

Harry Cleary wrote:What about....'Why does your bum look so big in that?' :oops: :oops: (now, that was stupid!)

Yeah, and, "does my head look big in this hat?"

Why do they never ask that?
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Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:17 pm

because no one has seen you in your hat :D


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