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Post Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:09 pm

a vinyl for masking

Hi all,
I haven't posted for a while (busy with other things than signs) but I have a quick question that I would like some ideas on:
I have been using my cutter a lot recently for cutting stencils to use on fabric. I have been using the 'normal' stuff that I have (Ritrama) and this has been working okay for me. But as I am running out of this and have to order new I was wondering if there is a better product out there for this.
I remember reading about a stencil product, but besides the stuff that stone cutters use I can't seem to find anything else.
As I said, the Ritrama is doing the job, but I find removing the application tape very time consuming as that sticks better than the vinyl.

Any thoughts and advice appreciated
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Post Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:17 pm

Hi
you can try sign and digital in dublin they do a good stencil material .We use alot of it in painting logos on trucks.
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:21 am

Hi Angelique

I use the Hexis polymask quite a bit for paint stencils, but think from what you are saying that a masking vinyl will not do you any favors.

Certainly with the hexis product, the adhesive is designed to be 'easy' remove as it is only there for a short time. Think the application tape will just pull it way as you are finding now, especially on fabric.
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:54 am

Thanks for that.
I will check it out.. :D
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:53 am

Hi Angelique
I also paint fabric occasionally :) . How are you applying the paint, do you need a stencil material that sticks well (as in airbrushing)?
There's a firm in the Uk called N C B who specialise in stencil materials, some are from the U.S.A. company Bren, they make a clear stencil, called P.Cut - I think.

I was discussing this just recently, if I can find the thread, i'll put a link here.

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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:53 pm

Barbara Eden wrote:Hi Angelique
I also paint fabric occasionally :) . How are you applying the paint, do you need a stencil material that sticks well (as in airbrushing)?
There's a firm in the Uk called N C B who specialise in stencil materials, some are from the U.S.A. company Bren, they make a clear stencil, called P.Cut - I think.

I was discussing this just recently, if I can find the thread, i'll put a link here.

Barbara


Thanks Barbara,

I need the stencil to stick reasonably well: I apply the paint with a stencilling brush and then go over it with a little roller (for an even finish).
I do two coats (it is usually white on a dark background) for good coverage.
It is not the end of the world if the vinyl lifts a little bit, but I could work faster if it didn't...
I will look into that UK company that you mentioned
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:53 pm

We use Avery Signmask Grey, Robert Horne will have it works fine.

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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:57 pm

OOPs! just read your question again. Signmasks not good for Fabric.
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 pm

Hi Angelique
Here's the link to the stencil materials i was talking about http://www.ncb-marking.co.uk/bren-stenc ... html#vmask

The P.Cut is a little opaque-like mylar, firmer than vinyl,but by no means stiff. You still need the appy tape, but not a problem

What a good idea to use a roller to even out the paint-but where do you get one small enough - or are you doing large projects?
Do you use a 'dedicated' fabric paint too?

Barbara :)
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:57 pm

I use artist acryllic. I have tried and tested many different types of paint and find that one the best: it is very thick for good coverage. I iron it afterwarths and it gives a really good finish. It stick really well.
I did try fabric paints aswell, but the solvents make the vinyll bubble: okay if you do only one coat, but no good for two.....
In terms of roller: I use a two inch foam roller.
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:45 pm

Maybe another way would be to get a less sticky application tape?!?!
Does that exist?
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:19 pm

Angelique I can't answer your question, but it is very nice to see you around again, hows the little one getting on ??


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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:51 pm

Lynn wrote:Angelique I can't answer your question, but it is very nice to see you around again, hows the little one getting on ??


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Very good! Thanks for asking Lynn
He is 11 months now... how time flies.... he is a good little boy... very happy and smiley, but he makes working on signs quite hard at the moment. I only get to do a couple of hours in the evening when he is in bed. I had this naive notion that he would entertain himself during the day whilst I could get on with work... how wrong I was :roll: But I am enjoying him a lot!
How are you!
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Post Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:52 pm

we are fine thanks Angelique a couple of pic's of the little man would be good


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Post Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:20 am

Angelique Muller wrote:I use artist acryllic. I have tried and tested many different types of paint and find that one the best: it is very thick for good coverage. I iron it afterwarths and it gives a really good finish. It stick really well.
I did try fabric paints aswell, but the solvents make the vinyll bubble: okay if you do only one coat, but no good for two.....
In terms of roller: I use a two inch foam roller.

Hi Angelique
I sometimes get similar work to yours---roller blinds and football kit and first-aid bags which are personalised for sponsors. These are usually small production runs.
I usually use Scotchcal 500series vinyl, which is quite soft, and carry it on a very low-tack application tape. A little heat also helps to bond the stencil and results in fewer problems in removing the app tape.
I always use ACRYLIC aerosols for this type of work, two light coats rather that one heavy one---it also dries quickly and the paint does'nt bleed under the stencil and no reaction with the stencil vinyl.
Sign+Digital in Dublin carry both of those products.
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Post Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:47 am

Thanks Barry,
I will give them a ring and get some of your recommended products...

And Lynn: I will pm you a picture of the boy...
edit: can't do that anymore... I will put one on new thread...

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