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Tim Painter

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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:47 am

Speeding

Anyone seen the new info message boards on the M27 M4 etc. :o
Well they are another spped camera system so I have been told.

Now the bad news, they are rigged with SPECS speed cameras.
SPECS is a digital camera based system. As you go past a camera software detects and reads your number plate. When you go past the next camera, it detects and reads your number plate again.

It knows how far apart the cameras are, so it can work out your average speed between the two cameras. The system is fully automatic and will automatically issue a ticket without any form of human intervention. It does this for every single vehicle that passes a camera!

You will not know you've been nicked at the time as the cameras don't flash. There's no film in them either, they're digital. Images of you in your car, together with the date and time, are stored on disc (I assume they only keep them if you've been nicked).

It works 24/7, 365 days a year, and theoretically, there's absolutely no limit on the number of tickets that it can issue. The whole section of the M27 between Fareham and Rownham Services (between junctions 2 and 3) is wired, both ways.

It is believed that the system is set to trigger a ticket at 78 mph. The bad news gets even worse. For those who've got radar detectors, they won't work. SPECS is entirely passive, there's no radar or laser beam to pick up.

Locally to me in Reading the mobile speeding camera van has caught 415 people in 11hrs operation of and nearly a few arrests like the motocyclist who decided to shake the van to vent his anger. Another £20 k plus for Mr Blair... (:)
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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:08 pm

I think they have had them on the M6 through the roadworks in Birmingham for a while, the bar stewards. They will soon be spreading like wild fire I guess :evil:
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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:24 pm

Just make sure you register your works van as exactly that, a works van.

I recently dodged a 37 mph on a 30 mph by replying that i was unable to confirm or deny that i was the driver and could they supply more evidence, in the form of a photograph to further help me identify who was driving the work`s vehicle at the time.

Due to the extra work this creates for the relative issuing council, the case is dropped 9 times out of 10.

Not proud of the fact i was speeding though, and i do my best to watch it always. I just despise the way the Uk motorist is such an easy target.

Rod
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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:25 pm

I got caught the other Sunday doing 37 in a 30 by a mobile unit. In my defense in teh 10 yrs i've lived in Aylesbury i always thought that that streach of the road was a 40, as all the other areas around there are 40.

Ohh well i'll pay, it's my first ever conviction in 16 yrs of motoring, and they didn't catch me doing 120 up to McRod the other month or all the other times i have been speeding, i do only open up outside town though nlot anywhere near the schools ect.

Ohh the fuzz got me last sat for not wearing my seatbelt as well, 30 quid fine no points though.

That one did gut me as i have been wearing it recently but i forgot.

And they hide behind the bushes to get you too. (:)
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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:55 pm

Simply a cash cow.

If fining people for speeding is such a great idea why isn’t it working, the number of fines just keeps going up.

If they where so concerned about speeding they would just give you a load of points for breaking a speed limit with a simple warning that next time you’re band. It would immediately solve any so called speeding problems or bring the country quickly to its knees. :o

Come on Tony let’s see how popular you really are. I dare you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alan
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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:32 pm

I just changed one digit on me number plate.. :cool:



Only joking :lol:

I got done two months ago 85 in a 60..but i thought it was a 70, 3 points and £60.00. first ever driving offence in 17 years
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Adrian Howard

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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:56 pm

Anyone know were to get this plastic from i am sure i could sell
1000's :P

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/anphotplatco.html
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Lorraine Buchan

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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:25 pm

is it not a similar sort odf film thats used for holographic stuff>>
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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:48 pm

i guess the only solution is dont speed,

i cover over 30,000 miles a year and it took me a few years to understand what i was doing wrong,

but now i read the signs (haha) and keep to the limit and if im not sure i do 30mph,

cant afford to lose my job just yet!

also i have some customers who produce plates using black reflective digits for the flash camera,s not sure how they would appear a night if the law was behind you,

also take a look at this,

http://www.radarexpress.com/lrc100.html

i heard about this little gizmo and was impressed
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Innocent

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Post Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:00 pm

How does "THE PROTECTOR" work? Photo radar operates at known angles to the direction of traffic flow. Using a passive, state-of-the-art light-bending lens, the camera is unable to identify your vehic


i think a polarising film would do the job
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John Childs

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Post Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:25 am

I'm ashamed to say that I treat it as a game because these cameras are not about safety, just tax collection. They want to extort money from me so I make it my life's work to make sure that they don't.

I would never dream of speeding past a school, or similar, and I don't go silly, but in the increasing number of places where the limit has been artificially lowered or is just plain not justified I'll give it a go.

I've got a good radar detector fitted but, best of all, on a bike I am perfectly immune to all forward facing cameras.
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Tim Painter

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Post Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:57 am

I think the film is pointless on the new breed of speed cameras they dont take a picture using a flash

"SPECS is a digital safety camera system providing point-to-point speed enforcement based on calculation of average speed. This is a unique system, which is an excellent deterrent against speeding motorists.

There is no other safety camera system in the world able to offer both unique features in one product, whilst maintaining the same level of accuracy and integrity of evidence.

A dramatic reduction in accident levels has been achieved within SPECS controlled zones, as well as a high level of compliance with speed limits. Furthermore, SPECS can be installed on virtually any route.

The SPECS system is so efficient and user friendly that Manchester CTO
processed 2,500 offences in 6 man-hours".

Aparently Thames Valley polices website denies the new info signs on the M4 have SPECS system built in but many believe it is being tested and will then be rolled out.

Oh bye the way who wants to own up to doing the vinyl on the mobile van speed camera units......
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Post Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:33 am

I agree with John..
Where I live, the A3 has around 5 of them in a 13-mile stretch...this is a 3-lane carriageway with only a 50mph limit.
In all the years (12) I have driven down there I have never seen an accident and that’s twice a day all in rush hour.
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Andy Gorman

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Post Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:47 am

QUOTE: "Oh bye the way who wants to own up to doing the vinyl on the mobile van speed camera units...... "

I used to do them. These new methods to tax motorists have all been tested in Northampton, including the multiple average speed cameras.
I'd say the first 20 fines would have gone to pay for the battenberg livery on the van.

So it's all MY fault. :-?
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Tim Painter

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Post Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:50 am

Respect Big-G atleast you did the crime & put ya hands up to it......lol
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Post Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:18 am

Imune???

Don't think that your immune just because they don't have your number
I got done on a bike and the court read similar jacket, similar helmet and similar bike even though 2 constables said they stopped me 3 minutes later 3 miles down the road!!! (Count it out) Fact was I was getting done and that was that.
Ain't gonna quote any speeds as it might upset some of the sheep.
Open road little trafficwhats the danger??
Its just more of the police state that we find ourselves living in nowadays.
It has been quoted that there was only one "police force" that had more powers than the current ones in Britain and try and guess which one that was.
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sammyr

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Post Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:54 am

got 72mph in a 40mph area the other day, but then i was screaming & they want to get me home for a ni***e nuzzle
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Post Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:15 am

At the risk of sounding holier than thou, a mate of mine a former cop and self confessed speed freak had to scrape a couple of people off their windscreens and go and tell their families. It soon changed his outlook on things. It'll never happen to me.........?

Sure the cameras are to raise money but SPEED KILLS, lets not forget that.

Tonight I killed a Fox, I wasn't speeding but was up in the sixties. the damn critter walked out in front of me reached the outer carriageway and then turned back. 5 mph slower and I may have missed it?
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Post Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:42 am

plenty more where that came from

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