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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:52 am

Roland Vehicle wrapping course is it any good?

got an email flyer in about a course at walsall college run by rolland, cost not bad at £550 for 2 day course on various dates? anyone heard of or been on this? I do vehicle graphics, pretty much self taught and thought this could be good for opening new doors as I currently tend to shy away from this type of work, even partial wraps? all advice appreciated.

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Post Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:28 am

I'm also very keen to hear about this course, more so now in light of recent posts making grafiwrap look like an unsuitable material for us to use... anyone out there done the wrapping course at Walsall?
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Post Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:21 am

I am really interested in doing a wrap course in the new year, as picking up tips has to be a good thing.
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Post Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:32 am

You may want to look here
https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p ... ing+course

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Post Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:33 am

Me too, be nice to get a group together
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Post Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:04 am

dates and prices
nr Birmingham apparently
http://www.rolanddg.co.uk/landingpages/ ... aspx?id=13
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Post Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:35 pm

hi all

Ive been to walsall twice now, once was not good and the last time was great, had a look around the wraping course and it looks great!, if your interested and we can get a group of 6 of us together, we can get a big discount on it, facilities and tools a great, they wrap brand new smart cars or a class mercs. I would love to go so if we can get 5 more next date is in feb
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:54 am

I am with you on that one Ian.

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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:56 am

Do you know what the deal is for 5 + then Ian?
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:59 am

I'm very likely to be interested, just need to confirm dates with the chief!
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:04 am

yes is it OK to put the prices up on here?
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:13 am

Are you thinking the 6/7 or 27/28th? I think I'm going to be ok for either to be honest. Dave we could maybe share transport? Not sure how I plan on getting there yet though!

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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:15 am

next date left is 6/7 feb
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:07 pm

As far as I understand it there is no problem to post prices on here.
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:11 pm

Mods can edit if needed

But if we get a group booking of 6 we the cost is 375 plus vat for 2 days, which considering the facilities is, i think great value
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Post Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:21 pm

ill come with you guys ive been up there twice and the facilities are grate.
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Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:53 am

book for me and one other. just let me know the dates, and how we should pay. if thats okay.
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Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:54 pm

sounds good to me, we will have to make some definite plans, I will call roland and confirm our places
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Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:07 pm

Cheryl Smith wrote:I am really interested in doing a wrap course in the new year, as picking up tips has to be a good thing.


Cheryl, after seeing your work, I reckon you should be teaching it!!

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Post Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:21 am

Thank you Peter,
after doing a few of these, I hope to find some tips, I have had a couple of problems and had to re apply and would like to know what I could do better. I generally apply dry, but this week found the mini bonnet easier applied a bit wet, and reading various posts about thermometers and various tools, It has to be only wise to move with the times....coming with me to the course is the guy who actually prints my vinyl for me, to see what we should be doing in the way of a prep and fit area as well as manufacture and fit, so it would be real handy to see how others do it.
I have attached pics of problem areas. Cheryl
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Post Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:57 pm

Hi All

What is the latest news on the group for this course, is it full? I am interested if there is a place open.

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Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:38 pm

hi all
Spoke to walsall about going on the course on the 6th of feb, they said it would be great to have us, If anyone is realy intrested PM me and we can get a good group together
Ian

PS need to get the names in asap, if there is more than 6 they said they will not take more than 6 on a course but will open up other dates
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Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:50 pm

Hi Ian

Do you know what is included in the costs regarding accommodation and food and stuff? I just need to check budget but really do want to go if we can get 6 of us together.

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:24 am

Cost is 350 plus VAT for 2 days with mid day meal included, accommodation is from 45 per night
course includes not only fitting but how to lay the design out and the printing of them. but the emphasis is on the practical side of fitting.
Look forward to it
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:15 am

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PM me you contact details
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:28 am

Errmm, I can't PM. Should be able to confirm before lunch today though if there are still places?

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:19 pm

Can't see a problem Gavin, but need your contact details
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:43 pm

I've sorted this out directly with Tony for the price mentioned. Just as few last things to tie up - should see you all there. Who's going?

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:41 pm

Gavin

Did Tony mention to you that all the places on the 9th are gone now, what he did say though is that he would give board members exclusive date of the 18th and 19th march, but we would all need to confirm by end of next week. So if anyone is interested it would be great to meet you all
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:47 pm

I am still keen so I will have a space, am I right to say it is now going to be in March?

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:53 pm

Yep its now in march as two from sign express and two signarama took the places and the other date in Feb is cancelled as the instructor is in china fitting over there. but tony gave march to any UK sign boards members that next date at the discounted price if we let him know by the end of next week

There is another idea he had about last minuet bookings but I would like to clear this with Rob

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:51 pm

I can't PM you but I am defo in for that. Sounds great!

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:52 pm

Great Karl!
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:54 pm

Cheryl are you still wanting 2 places?

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:55 pm

Where do we go from here? How do we book and when do we pay?

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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:59 pm

Will get the names together and give them Tony and then we each pay our own direct to the collage at the same price, if there is more of us than places he is willing to give us this price on the next dates too
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:00 pm

Can't wait! :D :D :D :D :D
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:20 pm

Just to make sure then

Warren
Karl
Scott
Ian
Chery + 1

Total = 6

Course is now full then ?
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:42 pm

seems like it, if cheryl confirms, but if there are others Tony said deal still stands for other dates
I will give Tony names in the morning
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:44 pm

Think Dave is going with Gavin They can tell us all about it :lol1:
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:12 am

Ian Bingham wrote:Think Dave is going with Gavin They can tell us all about it :lol1:


First I have heard of it.

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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:16 am

You coming with us dave?
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:39 am

I was hoping to :)

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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:01 am

OK
Just need Cheryl To confirm then Full Up
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:06 am

tried to pm you, if there is still a place I will go too
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:18 am

OK Will see what we can do
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:39 am

Situation as it stands is

There are 2 places in FEB 6/7th that have been alocated to us
Then 18th /19th march we have 6 places
Then 4 more on 26th /27th march
Could you let me know which you would like
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If you need any more info give Tony a call and mention the boards
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but if we can book as one group it saves any mix up
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:42 am

I think 18/19 March for me please.

Thanks Ian

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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:34 pm

18/19th for me too
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:12 pm

I'm going down on the 6/7th of Feb. Dave if you need a lift give me a shout.

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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:18 pm

March sounds good. I can catch up with me mate Warren! :wink:
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:30 pm

thats 3 of us on march then
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opps 4 then
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:00 am

are there any more places available after march? :D

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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:03 am

The sooner I get to grips with wrapping the sooner I can get on with this.
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:12 am

Hi Nik
Yes Tony said He would give us priority on booking, in April they are going to be doing 3 a month as demand is so great for it. Just give him a call nice fella and mention the sign boards
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:15 am

Would be nice to meet you though if you could make march
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:18 am

What van is that Karl?
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VAN??????????? It's a Kia Sedona mate. :o
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NO WAY!
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:51 am

I would be interested in March 18th / 19th if there are any places left.

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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 pm

so that should make 5 of us now on that date? Who do we contact then?
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:43 pm

No problem Chris, if you call Tony and mention the sign boards
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:14 pm

karl love the design, just do it!.
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:46 pm

Great Dave

Let us know how it is

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do you have a contact number please?
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:33 pm

Situation as it stands is

There are 2 places in FEB 6/7th that have been alocated to us
Then 18th /19th march we have 6 places
Then 4 more on 26th /27th march
Could you let me know which you would like
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If you need any more info give Tony a call and mention the boards
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:01 pm

18th & 19th March. Do we book direct or are you doing a group booking?
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:23 pm

book it direct, but you must mention the boards, as they have saved this date for us
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Post Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:39 pm

I have booked myself in for the 26th/27th March, sorry if this causes any confusion but my wife is working away on the 17th/18th so I can't make it.
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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:04 pm

I have booked in for 18/19 March, anyone else yet?
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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:17 pm

Chris Windebank wrote:I have booked in for 18/19 March, anyone else yet?


Me too, just booked 18/19th
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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:14 pm

Do you pay when you book or on the day?
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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:17 pm

Once you book with them they will email you a booking for and course information, you need to advise them if you are paying by cheque of card. I would presume you would have to pay soon after you fax back the filled in booking form.

I only got the email today so still need to send it back.

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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:17 pm

Not sure, have to give tony a call, think you pay just before you go but don't quote me on that
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You still coming Karl?
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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:20 pm

Oh yes matey! Wouldn't miss it for the world! :D Looking forward to meeting a few more mates on the boards. :wink:
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Post Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:27 pm

looking forward to seeing the astra van wrapped :lol1: :lol1:
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I'll give you bl**dy Astra van! :roll:
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:D :rofl:
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:26 am

Just reserved my place!
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:56 am

ill come up in march 18/19th
ill give tony a ring tomorrow
look forward to seeing you all. if there is a place left
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:33 am

Cheryl

Can't PM yet Dates above and you will need to phone quick, Great to see you there!

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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:32 am

just booked my place :lol1:
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:33 am

i think we are going to me wrapping a smart car
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:37 am

Yep

They give us a choice of what design we want to use too
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:53 am

Is it only smart cars they have?
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:55 am

Have Panels to practice on as well, mind you it might be A class mercs now i think of it but could be wrong, usually am
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:25 am

Good show, one model is a bit restrictive I would say, especially a smart car.
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:18 pm

Just Booked, think its full on these dates, but other dates available. Yes its a smart car they are doing, New one from the factory
Looking forward to meeting you all
Where are you all staying?
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:20 pm

Tony gave me this place
was 75.00 per night but mention Walsall College and should get for 50.00
www.birmingham-walsall.parkinn.co.uk
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:38 pm

Aye, me too. Booking a room was one of my biggest challenges so far this year!

All sorted now though!
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:14 pm

here is the hotel details
do you know who is tutoring the course.
i would prefer to practice on a van. but iam sure ill pick it up.
hope so anyway



Park Inn

Bescot Crescent

Walsall

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Tel: 01922 639 100

Fax: 01922 709 764
don't forget to mention Walsall College
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:01 pm

Yep Ive stayed there a few times it was the ramada, great rooms , food not that good, but plenty of currie shops around
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Single rooms I hope! :o
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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:21 pm

me and another signie from down here are doing the 18th-19th March.
so its us two, Warren, Scott Karl n Chris, where are you all staying? At the Park Inn?
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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:32 pm

Anything left for end of March?

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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:39 pm

Me as well Cheryl

Park inn if i can get a room!

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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:42 pm

You will have to be quick and phone Tony Peter, They are taking bookings for after May

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Post Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:36 pm

Can't believe i've only just clocked this....! Really was going to do Grafity P one at some point, but as i used to live that way (ish) a'll be able to visit home same time!
I'll give "Tony" a call tomorrow and see what spaces are available and when.

Do you think this is "running" before you can "walk" for me? I have done about 5 basic vans (letters / basic logo's)....as well as my own cars etc.....Really fancy it though, as i wan to do the introduction into digital printing as well....

Can't beat the feeling of knowing your doing the job right!

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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:28 am

hi guys you all looking forward to the wrapping course?

ive been to spandex open house to day and had a little go at wrapping with avery easy apply. went well the guy from cast signs was very helpful to.

did anyone else from the boards attend the show?
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:49 pm

how did the course go for everyone?
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:02 pm

Didn't make it, Course was full and had some family commitments that came up will go on a later one, Really missed going on it :cry:

BTW, passed your van on the A77 the other week John, It looked really good!

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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:24 pm

i saw you just as you passed

shame about the course

was down at the caravan at the weekend and stopped past your workshop like the opening hours (old but funny) i will give you a phone and order up some shirts jackets etc

i looked at your web site ian was the van guide prices mail order ?
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:33 pm

Really excellent course, learned alot and worth every penny. would like to have a work shop and print rooms like theirs at Roland Academy, really neat. could not come at a better time either, in the process of wrapping loads of vans, so keeping up practicing!!
totally recommended for people who would like the peace of mind that their vehicle wrap is going to stay in place and not come back with blown and shrunk areas....a real eye opener for myself. A lot more to it than meets the eye, and ive been doing it a while.
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:02 pm

Yes a great course and worth every penny. Good instructor too, nice to know he is local to me!
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:31 pm

John Imrie wrote:i saw you just as you passed

shame about the course

was down at the caravan at the weekend and stopped past your workshop like the opening hours (old but funny) i will give you a phone and order up some shirts jackets etc

i looked at your web site ian was the van guide prices mail order ?


Ha sods law! I was working at the farm shop next to te caravan park!!!!

Give me a call any way and well meet up

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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:01 pm

Ian Bingham wrote:hi all

Ive been to walsall twice now, once was not good and the last time was great, had a look around the wraping course and it looks great!, if your interested and we can get a group of 6 of us together, we can get a big discount on it, facilities and tools a great, they wrap brand new smart cars or a class mercs. I would love to go so if we can get 5 more next date is in feb
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Can I ask what discount you all got? as a group, compared with the standard charge? I did the graphityp course for two days, and wondered how it compared. price wise

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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:20 pm

Ian Bingham wrote:Mods can edit if needed

But if we get a group booking of 6 we the cost is 375 plus vat for 2 days, which considering the facilities is, i think great value
Ian

PS Food is great Too!


Standard price is 550 plus VAT

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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:39 pm

The graphityp price was £260 per person for 4 people for the 2 day course, so even with the discount the roland course does look a bit expensive for six people.
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:58 pm

Which would you rather have a rabbit or a roland? :lol1:
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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:59 pm

Ian Bingham wrote:Which would you rather have a rabbit or a roland? :lol1:



Sorry Ian, graphityps course was second to none
that was a rather derogatory statement,
and seeing as you didnt attend, dont see how you can comment

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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:32 am

Peter having been on neither I can not comment in any serious vain on either, and this wasn't meant as a derogatory comment. I take it you've been on both so as to compare and say it was second to none?
Lighten up Peter!
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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:48 am

Ian, I can only give my comments on my experience,
no I cant compare my course with rolands, but I can compare the price,
Our instructor was one of the most respected in the field, last week he was in Mexico with the GP2 team , next week he is in Bahain for a fortnight with f1 and gp2,
please dont ask if I would prefer a rabbit to a roland, without any knowledge of the subject,


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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:53 am

Brilliant course, excellent instructor, think he used to do the Graphytip course anyway, (yep its the same guy Peter)

Difference I think is we had two different vinyls to compare and got a 'tour' of the Roland facilities, lunch was included too.

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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:06 am

Dave, I am asking about the price and value, Ian said as a party discounts were offered, now if it is the same instructor, why would you want to pay a £100 more and have more people in the group?

just pointing out the facts, but if you felt it was good value, I have no problem, just saying, you could have done the same course for less, and maybe had more one to one tuition.


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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:16 am

I think the grafityp course was very good, i attended the same one as peter and at the same time.
from memory it cost £250 per head based on four for two days.
Lunch , coffee's etc is also included as is a tour of the facilities if you want one.
to be honest, our time was jam packed trying to get everything included. it covered allot from designing/setting up your artwork to be printed.
being talked through and understanding your vinyls, the pitfalls in bad preparation etc everything else was all hands on...
only two teams of two working on each side of the vehicle. plenty space to get moving as well as plenty of attention from the tutor. this is an important factor... too many bodies means "you loose out" as his one on one time with you is limited by every body added to the course.
we were being taught to use the grafiwrap but we were also shown low cost alternatives for short term wraps and the like. yes, these too were grafityp materials but very good products regardless.
at the end you have a written exam to complete the course.
the one big benefit in the grafityp course is that YOU CAN FAIL.
there are far too many courses on the go handing out false hopes certificates just for attending and handing over your money.

what i have said has no reflection on the roland course, i have not attended it but i have been on the oracal course. i am booked in for 3M next as well as mactac and hopefully avery too if i can get my head around flying. :lol1: ill keep you all posted... :D

dave was your instructor james deacon?
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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:48 am

Yes Rob it as James. we had two cars so plenty of practice between us all working in groups of three and individually on sprinter doors. No test at the end, but also got shown laminating set up and points to note, all part of the wrapping process.

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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:36 am

Hi Guys

The Roland course was very good and served it purpose for the reason I went,

but,

although I have not been on the Grafityp course it sound like it would have been better in most instances besides the fact you only get to use one type of vinyl. On the Roland course we wrapped two Smart cars, one with MD7 and the other with Grafiwrap. We all found the Grafiwrap much nicer and easier to use, the MD7 was harder and the other difference between then was the laminate on the MD7 was much glossier.

I agree about the number of people and feel that it should be limited to 4 or have 3 groups of 2 if you have more than 1 vehicle, it was difficult for 3 people to wrap the same part of the car and therefore you do lose out a bit on certain aspects.

Having said that it was a great learning experience and although more expensive and more people it was well worth it and can definitely recommend, James is an excellent instructor and very helpful. Although you do have to wonder why there is such a large price difference between the 2, the Roland course was £440 inc vat.

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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:53 am

all the courses seem to be worthwhile that includes bp course i attended very good
after coming back from the course i wrapped my own van it cost around £700 in material + printing time and a hard ten hour shift fitting the material we did remove all handles trim etc. it would still have been a hard day f we had left them on
a van the size i have costs around £1500 to have wrapped
doing my sums i think i could earn more easily stress free ! and not worrying if the vinyl is going to hold
I have had a close look at lots of wraps and after time they start to look a bit tired round the edges i seen one the other day where the laminate had started to break away and there was a big dirty patch on the bonnet where the exposed glue was attracting dirt i did not look good
anyway the jury is out for me i will pick my jobs carefully and make sure my customer understands that a wrap is not a respray
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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:09 am

Hi everyone, I meant to write after attending the course in Feb, but just not had a chance.

I found the roland course excellent. Facilities were fantastic and a good mix between practical and theory. I was a bonus using the 2 materials as they both seem to be a high quality and have different applications. When I was on the course we did split into groups of 2 for the most part although not everyone 'got' it and some were put in larger groups for the trickier rear quarter.

All in all a good course and the discount was an extra bonus. I liked the idea of not doing a course run by a material supplier but having met the instructer (yes it's the same one) I would suspect he would be honest anyway. In actual fact this is all a bit of a moot point anyway as I understand grafityp are to 'wrap' up the courses and let roland handle it all.

So if you atteneded the grafy course you saved £100 but only used 1 material... do you care? If you do then maybe £100 isn't too much for the extra experience, if you don't you got the better deal. Sounds likle both courses aer really good so this is all that seperates them.

Hope that is in some way useful.

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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:22 pm

Just got back from the wrap course at The Roland Academy.

It was a very intensive two days in which we very rarely stopped.

James the course tutor was excellent as were the facilities.

There were 7 of us split into a 4 and 3. We had the opportunity to wrap every part of the smart cars using both materials (MD7 & Grafityp).

Excellent communication with the tutor, excellent advice in methods and technique.

I have completed a couple of wraps over the last half year and only wished I knew then what I know now.

I fully recommend this course to anyone.
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Post Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:56 pm

I had a friend in the sign industry and he taught himself vehicle wrapping, he said it wasn't hard to do. He told me about this tool have a look on youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Z4YSMH06l4
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Post Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:00 am

the rollepro will do nothing for vehicle wrapping mate...

i have one in my kit, there is knack to using it for rivets and the like, not easy as they make out, the youtube demos do not highlight this.

as for your friend, wrapping not hard to do? how much experience does he have and how many cars/vans has he wrapped on his own or taking lead role as fitter with helper?
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Post Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:08 am

I am not sure, I can't imagine it is easy at all, I have trouble putting dry etch on , he he he :lol1:
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Post Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:11 am

If "he" thinks it so easy, you should get him to show you his technique's mate... better still he should start his own school... :D
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:53 am

as said in an earlier post i felt the course was very basic we had 7 people on it inc me i did not complete the course as i and my boss thought it was a waste of money and time no satisfied at all, The tutor was James very nice person but not much 1 on 1 time,
we will be trying to get our money back
if u are a beginner and have never done any part wraps or digital printing i would recommend this to u,
personally THIS IS my opinion . (chat.)
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:17 pm

hi phil, sorry to see you didnt finish the course.

although a lot of the stuff covered was quite basic it just helps to see someone elses methods and ideas.

We have been wrapping for a couple of years but having had no formal training i am very glad i attended the course and am sure we will benefit from what was taught.

Although i must say most of it is just understanding the correct methods and then getting as much hands on practice as possible.

Excellent tutor, very experienced and didn't try selling us one particular product as a "favorite" which is nice and makes a change...

we have just had some of the pics back of the finished cars.

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Post Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:15 pm

I recently completed the Roland Academy vehicle wrap course too - in fact I think I worked with Craig who has posted above (hi mate! Thanks for putting up with me!!).

I'd never been on a wrap course before and had not much experience either. I personally found it very informative and it made me feel confident enough to at least have a go - and that's what it's all about. Having said that, I had nothing to compare it to either.

James is obviously good at what he does and he informed me he used to run the Grafityp course too before joining the Academy.

However, I felt the course notes provided were a little thin on the ground. We were given a folder that contained only 8 pages of text relevant to the course.

This text had the following headings (without much detail contained therein): Practical (6 lines), Theory (4 lines), Benefits of Wrapping a Vehicle (13 lines), Storage (11 lines), Before Printing (3lines), After Printing/Lamination (12 lines), Cast Material V's Calendered (6 lines), Calendered Films (9 lines), There Are Two Types of Calendered Films (7 lines), Polymeric Calendered Films (12 lines), Cast Films (12 lines), Recognising the Vehicle Surface (6 lines), Recognising the Type of Paint on the Vehicle (3lines), Pitfalls (5 lines), Preparation of the Vehicle Surface (22 lines), Preparation of the Environment (8 lines), Felt Squeegees (3 lines), Hard Squeegees (7 lines), Rivet Brushes (2 lines), Knives and Scissors 5 lines), Heat Gun/Hairdryer (3 lines), Masking Tape (3 lines), Tape Measure (2 lines) and Double Sided Tape (3 lines). So all in all, not much detail. At the moment, I'm craving knowledge and felt these notes could have been more substantial in structure and more informative.

There was no textual information/pictures/screen grabs on artwork, scaling, importing images into software etc., etc.. James did cover some aspects of this verbally in front of the class, but I felt he assumed the listener had some prior knowledge of this. I would have found it useful to have had some course notes to refer to when I got back to refresh my (already fading!) memory as and when needed.

Without doubt the course location and facilities were excellent and presented in a professional environment. An extra day would have been even better!

I talked with James and expressed my interest in having course notes on the design and production side of things and he took what I said no board.

Apparently, we are to receive something to go on the wall to confirm we have attended. James said that everyone who had ever attended would get one eventually!
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:41 pm

hi Stephen glad to see you finished the cars we worked on they look gr8
i had a lot of work back at the ranch i must admit
as i said great tutor and good skills thanks for posting the finished car
well done m8

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