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John Imrie

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Post Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:13 pm

Vehicle Wrapping help and advice?

i joined just last week

i am in the process of upgrading my printer & cutter also a laminator
and have been offered the job of wrapping three quarters the way up 40 odd volvo cabs ( same idea as stobbarts)

I have booked myself on a course for january


any help or advice would be very much appreciated


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Post Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:46 pm

First off. will you be producing the wraps as well as fitting?
second, by offered, I'm not quite sure what you mean, I am "offered" jobs everyday, same as other sign firms in my area, but I have to quote and win the job.
To do a job on this scale you would need to be very well set up, and experienced, I dont know your set up, but not a job I would take on as a first time contract, could cost you a lot if not done right.

You will also need a warm, clean workshop that is big enough to do the job in, as well as being able to warm the units up for at least 4 hours before wrapping.

I seem to recall that Stobarts aren't wraps as such, just supplied as panel kits, may be wrong though

There are freelance fitters around, but will not usually guarantee a job. unless they know the print supplier and material used.



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Post Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:02 pm

yeh, stobbarts are kits, not wraps as such.
kits are much easier to fit, but the initial setup is what takes the time.
when we need to make a kit up we ask for the vehicle to be left with us for a day or two to allow us to cut and try various kits till we get it just right.
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:24 am

thanks for the reply

The job is mine if i want it, we are passed the pricing stage
we are getting final artwork ready
but because i am friends with the customer i could still walk away from the job and not lose him for the future

i take your point that stobbarts is not a wrap as i saw one closely yesterday but the large volvos dont break up into panels the way that truck did
the design goes from the bottom of the doors to half way up the windows
the steps ,wings, bumpers etc. are being painted by the customer

intend to go on course in jan. have provisionally booked, but could change if theres a better one
sorry the course is with roland
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:12 am

Tread carefully as you are about to step into a minefield. Not all "wrapping" vinyls live up to their claims, faults may not be immediately apparant and if you have done 10 or so before anything comes to light you may have an expensive rectification on your hands.
To start your wrapping career it is far better to build up experience with 1 offs rather than a fleet of 40, which has no doubt allowed the customer to screw your price right down.
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:22 am

i was pretty nervous about taking the job on

but i thought in at the deep end very steep learning curve but i would have loads of experience by the end of the contract

it worries me that so far nobody seems to be over confident in there materials

what is the best 2 part system to use?
what is the best wrapping course?

HELP!!!!!!!
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:26 am

whats a stobbart? pic?
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:32 am

This Is a Stobart Jason
http://www.eddiestobart.co.uk/

Large uk base haulage firm.
he gives all his trucks ladies names and even has a fan club for Stobart spotters!

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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:34 am

They dont seem all that complex to wrap? am i missing something.
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:38 am

Jason
John isnt wrapping them, he gave them as a example, But they arnt wraps, if you look close they are fitted kits all separate panels.

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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:41 am

So you have to apply vinyl to the panels when put together on the truck appear seamless?
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:44 am

Jason
the panels are all pre-cut and printed on clear vinyl so it makes fitting easy. If you join Stobart club there is even a video of the process!

not that I have joined....


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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:02 am

Peter Normington wrote:he gives all his trucks ladies names

Peter

But those trucks are called MAN! :lol1:

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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:27 pm

john imrie wrote:i was pretty nervous about taking the job on

but i thought in at the deep end very steep learning curve but i would have loads of experience by the end of the contract

it worries me that so far nobody seems to be over confident in there materials

what is the best 2 part system to use?
what is the best wrapping course?

HELP!!!!!!!


john, i don't think its that nobody is confident about giving you advice on the materials for the job. i think they are looking on it as the best advice to give you is to have some experience in wrapping before hand or this is going to be a costly exercise for you.

from memory i believe the stobbart "kits" were made using Avery vinyls.
however, as they are kits, its probably just an Avery Cast as opposed to avery wrap, because the wrap maybe over-kill for the job cost wise.
Wrap materials to consider... Avery, Grafityp, Oracal.. Mactac.
if using mactac state you want repositionable wrap because their macfleet with the permanant adhesive is less forgiving and not for a beginner.
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:39 pm

robert,

i have taken on board whats been said

and it think i will let the job go elswhere

what about the course for wrapping have you had any feed back on the roland one

are there any courses in scotland?
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:36 pm

John,Why dont you ask for a quote on the boards?
that way you keep the job and maybe could learn the techniques at the same time, just a thought, there are quite a few here that may help.

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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:46 pm

Could you post a picture of the design? I'm not sure it is really a 'wrap' anyway. If it doesn't involve heating and stretching then it's really just fitting large areas of vinyl.
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Post Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:02 pm

jonm01 wrote:Could you post a picture of the design? I'm not sure it is really a 'wrap' anyway. If it doesn't involve heating and stretching then it's really just fitting large areas of vinyl.


no disrespect mate, but its NOT advisable. the job hasnt been done yet, last thing John Imrie will want is someone from on here pinching his customer requiring 40 truck wraps. :wink: :lol1:

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