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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:58 pm

Looking for suggestions of a new company name

Hi All

Looking for suggestions of a new company name or opinions on my current attempt.

Anything goes :wink:

But please keep it serious and constructive.

Thanks all :D

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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:25 pm

Warren, what is you're connection with "mint" or is it just a phrase you have picked up on. If its based on the slang usage of the word i.e. best, fantastic blinging etc then I would stay clear as this will be lost in time.

What about "Caergwintwg Signs" its the Roman name for Winchester!!!!! It may get people asking about the name!
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:27 pm

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What about "Caergwintwg Signs" its the Roman name for Winchester!!!!! It may get people asking about the name!


they have to be able to say it first!!!
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:38 pm

Graeme Harrold wrote:Warren, what is you're connection with "mint" or is it just a phrase you have picked up on. If its based on the slang usage of the word i.e. best, fantastic blinging etc then I would stay clear as this will be lost in time.

What about "Caergwintwg Signs" its the Roman name for Winchester!!!!! It may get people asking about the name!


:o :o :o It would take me ages to learn to pronounce it first :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Zulu signs was one of the very first names I thought of about a year ago but to be honest I did not want to have a foreign name for my company and this is why I never gave it any further thought.

Cigna Signs was another because "Cigna" means "signs" in a few languages (French is one of them) so decided against this one too.

Another close one was g&g signs, it had a nice ring to it and is very neutral, too neutral I think to the degree it would not be memorable at all, it came about as green and grey due to the colours I wanted to use for the name, but for the website it would have to be gandgsigns.co.uk which looks far too weird.

I thought I was clever when I thought up "The BIG sign company" all on my own and then found it was already used :-? as were the other 500 I thought of :-? :lol1:

Keep the suggestions coming though

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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:40 pm

How about WBS?

Drat its taken
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:52 pm

Wot about

A-free-Kar Signs

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A-free-Kah Signs

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Free-Car Signs (for the boy racer market)
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:08 pm

Winton Signs
Spire Signs

just a couple more
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:10 pm

for no other reason than i'm typing them as i think of them (ie most are rubbish!)

'Signed'

The little sign shop (.com is gone in NY usa, but none here)

Galactic Signs

Lunar Signs

Quantum signs (again, in usa but not here)

Chaos signs

Atom Signs




lol... do i read new scientist too often ?
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:32 pm

Ian Bingham wrote:How about WBS?

Drat its taken


I think all of the 3 and 4 letter domain names were registered a few years ago.

Warren
If you have access to your hold up account, I just sent another possibility that is available as a domain name.
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:32 pm

Contrary to everyone else
I think Mint is a good name
Easy to say ,easy to remember conjors up a fresh and modern impression
two short equal sized words easy to create a logo from
can be visually linked by colour

mint signs

Still ,what do i know i was TerryBull Signs
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:38 pm

WBS taken by me hehe
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:44 pm

I reckon this is a winner........
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:47 pm

I have to agree with Terry, I like Mint signs :thumbsup:

The name doesn't have to have any real meaning but I would read it as quality signs.

My only fear would be as Steve mentioned in the other post as how it would sound when answering the phone etc.

But on the whole I like it. I agree I would change your name now as your still relatively new to the business.

Logo wise I like the one with the black background the best but would straighten the word mint.

One other thing I would do Warren is delete that script font from your system that's a big no no.


Hang on just seen Glenn's logo that changes everything beard signs it is :D
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:49 pm

Got it thanks Graeme :wink:

I keep buying domain names in case so want to make sure this time, I think I still prefer mint signs to be honest.

Terry, love the name, is your real name Terry Bull? what were your parents thinking :lol1: :wink: How did you find growing up?

glenn, you leave me speechless :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:54 pm

Thanks Martin, you are on the same lines as me then :wink:

Why is that font such a big no no? I use it on my website :-?

My favorite logo was the top right as it was clean and simple, also why would you say no to the italic text?

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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:03 pm

as i've already said Warren, i quite like Mint Signs, i only added a few options as you asked!
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:13 pm

Warren Beard wrote:
Why is that font such a big no no? I use it on my website :-?


Just don't like it Warren it looks very weak there are far better alternatives out there, I'm not a fan of unlinked script fonts.

The slanted Mint..again personal preference would just prefer it straight.

Couple of quick efforts below, I know both in Aerial, again there are better alternatives.
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:14 pm


mynt we did a while back
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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:17 pm

I forgive you Hugh :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

I like those Martin, I was going to make the dot on the mint grey because I had made the dot on the signs green but though if I left it like I had it it would draw more attention to the word signs, there's always a method in my madness but might always be right :wink:

Mint Signs is still my 1st choice even though some others are OK, If nothing tops it I will be using it in the next week or 2 as my new corporate image :wink: :P

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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:21 pm

Warren it is your choice no matter what any one says you will do what you want , and I'm sure you will make the right choice, looking forward to seeing it :D


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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:26 pm

I agree Mint would be fine.........

I would answer the phone "Mint" elongating the i.......
I also agree about the script font it's unprofessional

Warren....Labyrinth.....??
Beard....


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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:42 pm

Andrew Boyle wrote:I would answer the phone "Mint" elongating the i.......


:lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

have to agree with lynn, i look forward to the finished layout :D

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Post Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:46 pm

next will be another marathon logo design thread again :wink:
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:05 am

the more you get into mint ideas flow
Love the retro fontss in Ian's post
silver.. greys.. charcoal.. pastels nice colours for a white or silver van
dont go too mad on big and bold but more on tastful clean lines and contrasts
in type weights
clever use of coiour.
Martins lozenge logo is on the right lines,add a phone no and it would look great as a little tag sticker for your signwork

Warren i was christened Terence but the vicar was the last to call me it

I pity some kids these days with some of the wacky names about now
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:15 am

Hi Terry

I know, some of the names these days are terrybull :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol1: sorry, couldn't resist :oops:

Regarding design, I agree with you 100%, that is why my first choice logo was going to be the top right hand side logo in my first post, simple and clean, underlined to enhance with a slight soft shadow, job done I thought :wink:

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:28 am

Beard is a synonym of challenge........Challenge Signs?????? Just a thought. don't really have a problem with Mint Signs.

And I would take that script outside and beat it with a sledge hammer :D :D
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:38 am

Well-Hung Signs...erection specialists.
:)
Seriously, mint is OK.
You will have to worry about people wondering if you have a "hint of mint" (slang for gay similar to "light in the loafers")

You've come a long way in a short while, but you still have time to change your name. I would try other fonts than helvetica, however.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:30 am

Sexy Signs
"If our competition doesn't f#*k you... We will"
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:50 am

Mint signs sounds fine to me.
My eye goes straight to the middle top logo.

The most difficult thing for a new name is getting a sensible web name.
I presume you have the co.uk registered.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:53 am

Peter Dee wrote:I presume you have the co.uk registered.


Yip :wink:

Thanks for the comments and suggestions guys, I think the next thing to do now is finalise the logo :o :wink:

I will try some different fonts, any suggestions?

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:59 am

Peter Dee wrote:Mint signs sounds fine to me.
My eye goes straight to the middle top logo.
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i'd agree with that, top centre would be my first choice, followed perhaps by left centre.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:15 am

I agree with Hughs choice and order. Both would need digital printing though.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:21 am

Phill wrote: Both would need digital printing though.


Everytime you want to use the logo which would be a pain.

I like Martin Cole second idea.....with two different fonts maybe?
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:33 am

This is only a thought, and in no way an assumption or suchlike.
Seeing as Mint are well known for credit cards and loans etc, is there any way they could get funny with you calling yourself mint?
Their logo isnt even similar or anything but
I know these big companies do get funny over people with similar names etc and I know you are not trading in a similar field but these people have the money and power to shut you down before you start.
I would imagine they have no grounds for this but it might be worth at least checking out first before you lay out loads of cash only to find out they have managed to copyright the word mint or something.
Like I said I wouldn't know but you do have to think about these things.

P.S I like the top middle and left middle too.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:43 am

Phill wrote:I agree with Hughs choice and order. Both would need digital printing though.


Surely a decent cut vinyl leaf would be easy to produce if needed.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:16 pm

any way i quite like mintsigns
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:23 pm

seeing as you didn't like my first attempt Warren :wink: ...
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:55 pm

OK, at the moment I'm sticking with mint signs, I will develop it over the next week or 2 and continue thinking about alternatives, if none come up then mint signs it is which I will be happy with and should not deter any potential customers.

I need font options, if you don't like any of these you are more than welcome to submit your own :wink:

I'm quiet liking the bottom one, so you know my opinion :lol1:

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:02 pm

Fonts, like no 6 then 9, followed by 5 and 7.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:23 pm

I agree I like #6 counting down from the top. Did you consider the word mint being tied to money and postage? Just wondering.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:44 pm

another idea using colours :D
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:56 pm

I like that top one a lot Andrew. Definitely a clean and modern look with a nice splash of color.
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:04 pm

That is very nice Andrew, I like the colour a lot, do you think it would stand out enough on the side of a big van though?
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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:19 pm

When I think of the mint hand symbol I think of the + symbol.

It would look great with a bit of space on white with bleeding off + symbol if you know what I mean.......i would work the symbol to appear to be a transparent overlap (!) :-?

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:42 pm

was just doodling with the idea....instead of just plain text one with border one without :D

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:18 am

Andrew Boyle wrote:another idea using colours :D


Whats the idea?
A headache inducing Kilt?

Or is that not what the bottom picture is meant to be,.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:26 am

Just f@rting about....... I like funny patters :D
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:30 am

Andrew Boyle wrote:Just f@rting about.......
me too...chemist? :peek:

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:35 am

outside the open box (lisa)
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Andrew Boyle wrote:outside the open box (lisa)
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:46 am

heres another one....big space but great to add digital graphics within in it :wink:

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:10 am

Number 9 Warren.

Change the dot on the "i" in mint to grey?

I still like the original one with the leaf.
Sometimes I think it's possible to fiddle about too much.

When explaining to people "why mint signs" you can choose from any of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:24 pm

I agree with changing the green dot on the i also.
will look much neater and in keeping with the rest.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:49 pm

Hi Guys

I purposely left it off as I feel it keeps your eye drawn to the word "signs" more, as this is what I want people to know as it's what I do?

I might be wrong with my thinking :lol1: :wink:

Here are both close up.

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:19 pm

Show us with it one green & one grey
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:21 pm

Steve Underhill wrote:Show us with it one green & one grey


:-?

Isn't that what I did ?

confused.com :-?

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:32 pm

No, its not.
The green on the green writing and the grey dot on the grey writing

notconfusedatall.com :lol1:
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:39 pm

Oh, you mean normal :lol1: :P :roll:
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:43 pm

Warren to highlight the SIGNS you could use a bolder version for that part but I don't think it will work with that font (could be a bit obscure from a distance). Might work better with your version 3.
I like the dots reversed out.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:16 pm

Hi Warren

I LIKE the name - Mint!

Here is the contribution from the Irish entry...

One new and a couple of 'Old-School' type layouts for you to crit.

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:01 pm

Here's my take on it. It's definitely not perfect though.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:16 pm

Thanks guys for the efforts, some nice ones there but I am thinking of going a little more modern / contemporary with the branding and I think this font will go well. It looks good with a shadow on it so website and printed materials will be great, either leave off the shadow for cut vinyl or use a light grey or silver.

I am working on a few ideas at the moment and will post them later.

Keep the inspiration coming in the mean time. :wink:

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:23 pm

Yeah I agree with you. A simple modern approach would work great. This isn't exactly related, but there's a distribution of Linux called Linux Mint. http://linuxmint.com/
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:24 pm

warren I like the look of niks one
very nice nik very simple but it works for me !! :D
the last one she posted black and green square
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:18 pm

Have a look at Peter Dee's link above, there are so many mint references.

Now there's a new one. :wink:

I also liked Niks one as it is my sort of style, if you remember how my last logo began it was a very similar design, I just found that the large squares and rectangles can make designing stationary and own vehicles much harder so thought I would simplify and modernise this time around.

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:14 pm

all the designs so far are very good. though the two Andrew has submitted appeal more to me. as you know I'm not a lover of the name and even when i was thinking about designing for it, i couldn't get away from the word mint meaning the flavour or the leaf out of my head. designing with this in mind, i think is the wrong direction because that side of it has no association with signs, so i feel there has to be some form of detachment of thinking Mint as we do and to actually see it as just a word within the design. (if that makes sense?) :-?
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:38 pm

Hi Rob

I think I sort of get you :-?

I do agree as well and that is why I personally do not like the designs with the leaf I posted at the beginning even though many others did :-? I want to keep it simple and "FRESH" so what I am trying to do is get no matter who reads it will think fresh weather fresh mint leaves, fresh peppermint or whatever. At the end of the day it says signs right next to the word mint so they will know what I do............... I suppose :wink:

I have been working on my website with this in mind and there's a screen shot here to show you it's clean, crisp and fresh looking.

Still working on ideas though, I can't quiet decide on what shade of green though :-?

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:56 pm

i agree with you in ways warren, and without trying to come across as forcing my views. to me, it is the word mint itself that is causing confusion. by that i mean, you are trying to portray what you want people to think (and i do see the logic in it) but by using this word it is adding to the confusion. again, this is just what i think when i see it...
i know naming a business is not an easy task... at the end of the day it is going to be decided by you only. im just trying to throw the negative at you as well as positive...


and again, this is just my opinion mate... which go's for nothing at the end of the day. :-? :lol1:
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:12 pm

Warren I hope you take this the right way, but I think that font you are using is very outdated.....and a lazy way to look modern.....the dots look akward and clumsy......I think both Nik and Andrew are on the right path here........they look truly modern. Just my tuppence worth, interesting thread
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:46 pm

I think Iv'e got it what do you reckon :D

I do agree with Harry, the font is only ok and the dots are to OVERPOWERING.

Nik's second effort wins for me. Very crisp clean and modern.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:47 pm

Hi Rob and Harry

Thanks for the opinions but you are wrong........ just joking :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

No seriously, I do see where you are coming from and understand but with all things we are limited to what we can do and understand and then transfer to paper (or screen :wink: ) I do think Andrew's designs are very modern (as they always are with him) but I just think to me personally they lack a little bit of oomph. and notability on the street, I'm trying to think of it on the side of a van or on a sign over my unit (one day :wink: ) even on my uniforms. We do all see things differently and I don't think any of us are right or wrong because it is all subjective isn't it. I also know your experience can help lead me on a better path but I also have to be happy and comfortable with that path, hence the change in name now. I can only design to my ability unless somebody posts something I can use or adapt so if what I think is modern isn't quiet modern it is just my ignorance to it and not trying to be lazy (I know you meant it constructively) but I am more of a doer than a designer.

I had a toss up between Mint Signs, Think Signs or WB Signs and thought WB Signs was not memorable enough, Think Signs was good but also had a weird tongue twister ring to it and not overly excited about the .eu web address, so Mint Signs was still a little ahead. I also think the colour scheme goes well with the name and not sure if the thought of the mint herb will do any damage to business. So as much as I won't be promoting It using any mint leaf images or anything like that I don't think it will hurt if somebody thinks of it.

Anyway as I said it is not finished or finalised so am hoping some more ideas still come and I will keep adapting and tweeking until I fall over
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I do appreciate all comments and do not get offended and am never to proud to admit I'm wrong.

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:53 pm

Warren,
the layout for the web looks ok to me, but I hope you are going to review the copy, it makes it sound sound like you are desperate for work.

Never suggest that you will (endeavor to) beat a quote,
or say you will redesign until the client is happy....you will be making a rod for your own back....

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This is the font in it's original state, I added the dots to be different :-?

Also will have the drop shadow

I'm still open to suggestions
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:59 pm

Warren................I have to jump in here, there's components to my doodle that could give you the most noticeable van in town yet it would still be clean, fresh and professional although maybe a little too corporate.

I do agree with Harry about the font and the circles on the i however I think it's going places and could be great with a few changes, [ I do not want to push my views because I try to be fair... but deep down I'm very opinionated].....you know what I mean!

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:00 pm

Peter Normington wrote:Warren,
the layout for the web looks ok to me, but I hope you are going to review the copy, it makes it sound sound like you are desperate for work.

Never suggest that you will (endeavor to) beat a quote,
or say you will redesign until the client is happy....you will be making a rod for your own back....

Peter


Hi Peter

The copy changes all the time :lol1:

But I am actually a little bit desperate for work so added that in to entice, I purposely put "endeavor to beat" so I can hopefully at least get a chance to review others quotes and see if it is worth while to reduce my price or even to ensure we are quoting like for like, I recently lost 2 jobs because of it and it made me mad, I am not going to win them all (which would mean my prices are too low) but when I get asked to quote one way and then 2 weeks later I see their signs up and are cheaper versions or not as requested I get annoyed as I might of had a chance if quoted like for like.

Just my thinking of it.

As for designs, while I am not 100% busy yet I have time to design and do more layouts so do what I can, as I get busier I will remove that from my site. Doing your own website has it's advantages :wink:

But thanks for the heads up, I will keep my eye on it.

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:05 pm

Warren Beard wrote:
No seriously, I do see where you are coming from and understand but with all things we are limited to what we can do and understand and then transfer to paper (or screen :wink: ) I do think Andrew's designs are very modern (as they always are with him) but I just think to me personally they lack a little bit of oomph. and notability on the street, I'm trying to think of it on the side of a van or on a sign over my unit (one day :wink: ) even on my uniforms. We do all see things differently and I don't think any of us are right or wrong because it is all subjective isn't it. I also know your experience can help lead me on a better path but I also have to be happy and comfortable with that path, hence the change in name now. I can only design to my ability unless somebody posts something I can use or adapt so if what I think is modern isn't quiet modern it is just my ignorance to it and not trying to be lazy (I know you meant it constructively) but I am more of a doer than a designer.


Well said Warren!

You should feel comfortable with your logo. We all put our 2punce in but it's ultimately down to you, if people like very modern it doesn't mean you have to, so should not be swayed, which I don't think you would.

Having now seen a lot of your work it deserves a respectable name and logo so give it much thought to achieve a result your completely happy with.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:13 pm

Andrew Boyle wrote:[ I do not want to push my views because I try to be fair... but deep down I'm very opinionated].....you know what I mean!

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Post Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:22 am

Hi Warren,

I liked the top right in the first picture you posted. I agree I would prefer letters straight.
Like the white background, green and silver combination. Also love the name, I think of mint like something in "Mint condition".
Just Simple and Nice!

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Post Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:58 am

I was also thinking of "Mint"
they make money, as in the royal mint, they make coins you make signs.

maybe next year you might be called "minted" signs
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Post Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:14 pm

Hi All

What about;

Sign Sensations

or

Sign Sensation

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Post Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:50 pm

Yup - I prefer Sign Sensations to Mint signs

Or wot about Sensational Signs :D
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Post Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:13 pm

i agree, i think its better than mint signs. however, i think its a bit tacky also... i dont mean that bad, it's just how i would look on it if i saw it in yellow pages. at the end of the day its down to you... but look on it as how a variety of customer may look on it. i.e. from mrs bloggs to the corporate firms.


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Signations?

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Just a quicky - misses!
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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:20 pm

Thanks guys

Wow Rob, you are a very hard man to please :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: Do you mean this name sounds a bit too "soft" and would not be corporate enough?

I like this font I have used but is similar to a style Andrew posted where my concerns are the thinness of the letters for cut vinyl, at 1m wide the "N" leg stroke is only 2.5mm thick :o stationary would look great but on a van or sign?

Anybody have some font suggestions or logo options for this name?

And more opinions on the name please :wink:

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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:03 pm

OK name but a bit of a mouthful.
US firm has the domains but sign-sensations.com and co.uk are available.
Still think Mint Signs is fresh, simple and memorable.
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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:00 pm

Hi Peter

I agree with you, it is a bit of a mouthful but not a bad mouthful and rolls off the tounge a bit easier than Mint Signs. I like both of these but need to decide which is better for business if I can't think of anything else :wink:

A slight variation on logo for Mint Signs using same font as Sign Sensations, I am also liking the dark red and dark gray colour scheme at the moment.

Still not sure how well this font will work on a fascia or van?

And I have the signsensations.co.uk web address :wink:

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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:03 pm

Warren....do you have a thing about sweets? :D



What about Spangles Signs......Toffos Signs......X Strong Signs.....Juicy Fruit Signs :wink:
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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:56 pm

Robert Lambie wrote:. but look on it as how a variety of customer may look on it. i.e. from mrs bloggs to the corporate firms.


As above this is important to do.

It also comes down to the kind of work your aiming for as to how your logo can look. Must be looked at from all angles (<(

Personally I don't like sign sensations, still preferring Mint Signs.

Still not sure about your designs Warren, IMO may be wrong fonts and would loose the soft shadow, it would always need to be printed. A solid very light grey would suit better.

I like Glenn's 2 layouts further up. The think signs colour is superb.
Have you disbanded Think Signs? I quite liked that.




''Spangle signs'' hmmm I feel some holographic vinyl coming on.

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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:14 pm

Hi Martin

I'm trying to find something memorable but not jokey or too quirky as my current name. As you might imagine I am finding this hard but so far the best 2 I think are Mint Signs and Sign Sensations. I want it to be fairly corporate but also "inviting" if that makes sence :-? Think Signs is not bad but the .co.uk web address is taken and I have just checked out who has it and it is another sign company about 20 miles from me so that is obviously definitely out.

So far it is between these 2 and now just to find a font that somebody other than me likes :wink:

Here is Mint Signs logo without any shadows, I was going to use a solid gray if doing cut vinyl but a soft shadow for all printed materials.

I also thought using the dark red and gray colour scheme would stop more people thinking of the mint herb but I also like those colours.

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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:45 pm

Warren Beard wrote:
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So far it is between these 2 and now just to find a font that somebody other than me likes :wink:


Ultimately it's down to you Warren, if you like it then that's fine. We are but a team of advisors to give our opinions.
I do like the font above I just think it may be the Caps are just to over powering, dropping them down a few points may help.

See where your coming from on the shadow, although I would still prefer it without the soft one.

Also Deep reds and greys go well together so other colour combos would work to take away the mint /herb connection.

It is a toughy getting the name right, I pondered for days on end before coming up with what suited by business. :-?
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Patriot Signs ??
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Post Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:12 pm

A few more attempts at a logo trying to get inspiration from Andrew's designs, I'm still having a tough time choosing a font.

Andrew, what font did you use?

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Just a quick try, was bored anyways.. I think its modern.
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got this love affair with impact at the moment

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How about?
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two more for the pot
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:28 pm

I just thought I would post an opinion about names in general. While you are deliberating your name I would suggest that your name is not as important as building your reputation and quality, particularly as you are a very small company.

To back up this opinion I offer a couple of examples:

1. Just when the UK was used to Marathon, the choc bar was globalised to Snickers. I think most people didn't like the new name but it didn't affect sales and we don't even think twice about it now.

2. If you were starting out in a "certain business", would you ever choose the name Marks & Spencer?

So the name is subservient to the brand reputation and quality which is what people buy.

Of course, this doesn't apply to names such as " (oh i swore !) Signs" !!

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:51 pm

If I could just add to the non specific information...

I'm in the process of trying to get a design tied up for a large organisation and it's a committee involved. When I met the women who I will be dealing with I mentioned that showing a layout to a committee is a very dangerous business. She said your right they may all hate it. My reply - no they will all say 'we love it, but can we just change this or that and add this and take that away'.

My advice to her was to have one person (her) to make the final decision based on all the input given to her and the options we supply. But to be very weary of trying to make everyone happy!

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:23 pm

Gavin, I have had just that, thankfully the lady came in and spent 1.5hrs thrashing through the design as she realised it was going to take weeks for everyone on the committee to come to a decision, apparently she was a 'designer' and her husband (also came with her) was an architect, can't think of anything worse.

Sorry to highjack the post.
I would still go with Mint Signs and like the mint leaf idea as a dot or martins latest top idea.


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AND ROB WHERE IS MY AVATAR, I HAVE ATTACHED IT TWICE NOW (hot)
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DaveBruce wrote:AND ROB WHERE IS MY AVATAR, I HAVE ATTACHED IT TWICE NOW (hot)



no you have not... you have attached it about 10 times in the last month and your still getting the wee red cross. :wink: :lol1: :lol1:
then again... maybe your actually a wee red cross? :-? :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

send me it if you are having bother and ill load it for you mate. :D
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Had a play with some negative space....
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:50 pm

Thanks for the comments and designs guys, I also like Martins top one and I like David's idea but not sure about the entire "i" a different colour, I will play with that and see if I like any options of it, otherwise I am still thinking of going for a much simpler design with only 1 or 2 colours.

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:11 pm

martins 1st bottom one and 2nd top one stand out for me.
The 3 above look a bit too broken up, kind of like a crossword.
and the mint looks too spaced out.


Edit: only just noticed it wasnt you who posted those 3, sorry I have the flu, not paying attention.
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:38 pm

Hi All

Thinking of going in this sort of direction, similar to old designs posted but slightly altered according to your opinions (ie: no italic text, reduced cap sizes etc)

Looks like it's going to be Mint Signs after all :wink:

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:43 pm

New top one best of 3, (the underline on the bottom 2 looks a bit rough)
The 2 shades of green go really nice together.:thumbup2:
Just curious why is there no spacing between mint and signs, can I see it with one?
Sorry I haven't posted anything of my own but I'm not in the mood for brain stuff tonight, maybe after a few more lemsips.
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:27 pm

Space between :-? just thought it looked tighter without the space and seeing as it was 2 different colours didn't really need it :-?
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:00 pm

Only my preference but I do prefer it with the space, love the colours and the mint leaf, looking good it is.
Plus the fact using just 2 colours gives you a better scope of what stuff you can put it onto without anything clashing with a background.
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:11 pm

Yeah, when I added the space and changed the colour I thought much better, think that might be it now. :wink:

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:25 pm

I like it without a gap.....the leaf could be a mark...etc

nice though


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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:32 pm

Nice colours those Andrew, I actually also reduced the gap as the normal space was huge so it was a bit of a gap but not a full space. Also like the idea of the leaf in 2 colours.

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:38 pm

andrews nailed it again lovely choice of font weight.
top marks to martin and david

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Andrew Boyle wrote:I like it without a gap.....the leaf could be a mark...etc

nice though


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Warren, think you are on a winner there, its got a good clean classic line without being too plain. Definitely like the two tone leaf, as it brings both elements together.
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:42 pm

i think andrews tops it off for me :D

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Andrew Boyle wrote:I like it without a gap.....the leaf could be a mark...etc

nice though


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“Take the obvious, add a cupful of brains, a generous pinch of imagination, a bucketful of courage and daring, stir well and bring to A. Boyle.:D :D
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“Take the obvious, add a cupful of brains, a generous pinch of imagination, a bucketful of courage and daring, stir well and bring to A. Boyle.:D :D
Fascinating thread! :D


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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:14 pm

What font is that Andrew and what version? My thin is very thing and my bold is as per my last attachment, I wanted an in between but could not find one (wanted to use a font and not add a line if possible)

I thought I was maybe on to a winner with this style and thanks to Andrew to help get it right :wink:

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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:19 pm

this thread should be kept as a scrap book......plenty of good ideas for ideas up there for future reference
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:21 pm

I think Andrew's last one looks the business...very nice.
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trajan pro.......will pm :lol1:
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I have trajan pro, after seeing that I may dig it out again.
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:38 pm

Andrew Boyle super star :D :D :D will you do mine as well


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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:50 pm

That's bang on the nail Mr Boyle.

Warren that's the one to use. Superb!
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:18 pm

A big big thank you to everyone who helped (again :wink: :P ) an extra thank you to Andrew for a slightly better font choice than mine and also a great idea with the leaf.

Andrews final one is what I will be using but not with those colours, although I really like those colours there does not seem to be a vinyl that come close to it so that might make it difficult going forward.

So another big thanks to all and to Andrew for tweeking my design to perfection.

Lots of drinks to buy next year at SignUK

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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:41 pm

Hi Warren, its red! you cant have red and mint together without green, just doesn't work mate... any way I prefer original company name
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:46 pm

i do prefer andrews olive and sorta dark petrol blue colours better mate. i think the colours are a bit more tasteful but unusual at the same time.
im not a lover of the font but i think its a good choice none the less.
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:27 pm

I also like the colours but like I said I had a look through my swatches and there is nothing close to that sort of green, the bluey/green sort of has something similar but it will be a huge problem if I can't get the right colour vinyls :-?

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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:33 pm

'mint' does scream green ......... Oracal 751 608 petrol and 064 yellow green (not a perfect match to Andrews layout but nice nonetheless)
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:39 pm

Warren,
I think the colours Andrew has used make it that bit more special, not quite the same effect in red.

I would suggest getting hold of all the vinyl swatches you can including Avery there must be something out there close. May be ridiculously expensive but it's only for your own use, I think it will be well worth the effort.
Phone Spandex for a full sets of vinyl colours, if you don't already have one.

The web site and stationary will look top notch if applied correctly.

Good Luck :D

Just read Marcella's post, maybe your nearly there.
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:44 pm

i just made this in seconds... using a strong green which i should have in an avery range and strong black. Doesn't have t obe subtle colours.


Just remember that Christmas doesn't look right or Easter. Or even Red text mixed with White background



Anyway Football on


update: i don't have my colours here, but we use Avery because of the colour range.
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:52 pm

i have read this thread a few times, when i look at your last one Warren im not over keen on it at al... then i scroll up and see Andrews and it appeals more to me. (i dont just mean the colour) having looked at them both a few times i recon its more down to the amount of negative white space around Andrews, then coupled by the colours makes it much more appealing. i am merely pointing this out to you before you begin work on your branding. i know its often something we all do, "oversize" our graphics to get it as big as possible... but i think you should really try and make sure you keep this design spaced and sized tastefully or you could kill it. (i know i am hopeless at explaining things) :-? :oops:
what i mean is... some designs work when splattered up the side of a van, car etc whilst others that are perfectly good designs, "dont". i recon this design is good, but i think you be careful not to overkill.

sorry if that hasn't made much sense... :roll: :lol1:
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:55 pm

Warren Beard wrote:
Andrews final one is what I will be using but not with those colours, although I really like those colours there does not seem to be a vinyl that come close to it so that might make it difficult going forward.


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warren i hate to say it but Andrew is right :lol1: :lol1:

, for the blue use avery 733 pf blue, ( near as dam) havent got the swatch to hand but from memory one of the 3m 10yrs cast are very close to the green

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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:09 pm

I agree too petrol and olive and the logo always in an area of space with the colours doing some work elsewhere...... :D
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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:52 pm

Robert Lambie wrote: its more down to the amount of negative white space around Andrews


Hi Guys

Firsty, when I make a jpeg it only makes a jpeg of actual image area and that is why there is no white space around the logo I posted.

Like I said I do like Andrews colours but could not find a suitable green, petrol was the bluey/green colour I thought would be good but it needs to have a dirty olive green to compliment it and I could not find one in about 8 swatches, I will get an Avery swatch as I don't have one of those, I don't think it would be a great idea to have gone with these colours if I could not find suitable coloured vinyls, if I can then great as I do like them.

Will keep you posted.

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Post Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:52 pm

Warren....obviously the final decision is down to you but I can't understand where the red comes in to it....there are plenty of colour combinations available in vinyl that would work.... In my opinion the word "mint" has to be in green....two shades of green would work just as nicely but the red just seems to clash
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Post Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:00 am

i have to agree with others...green it has to be, andrew has given you a very classy idea....go for it :D

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Post Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:08 am

I agree, I just thought that from the comments I got about people thinking of the mint herb if I made it any colour but green then they would not (or not so many anyway :wink: )

I am a converted man as long as I can find the right colour vinyls :D

I am using my website as a guide to see what the colours (and negative spacing :wink: ) will be like, I attached a screen capture, compare it to my earlier one :o :o :o It just shows how great this forum actually is :wink:

Cheers guys (and girls of course)

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Post Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:16 pm

With 2 identical letter "I"s but only one with a leaf, I keep feeling something is missing.
Shouldn't the Mint have the leaf rather than signs if anything?
Also, should the Mint be green rather than word signs?
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Post Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:26 pm

David Glen wrote:Shouldn't the Mint have the leaf rather than signs if anything?
Also, should the Mint be green rather than word signs?


i think its perfect...the word 'signs' needs the leaf, as signs is whats being sold.....the mint is green, just a different shade :D

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