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Jeremy Howes

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Post Sat May 26, 2007 8:28 am

Foam board to wall fixing help

Hello all,
Would someone please suggest a method and supplier of a system to fix 1800 x 350 x 5mm (landscape) foamex to an internal wall without showing screws etc, the sign can stand proud of the wall.

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Post Sat May 26, 2007 8:35 am

Morning Jeremy why not use some simplefix fixings?
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 8:40 am

Can it go in a frame?
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 8:56 am

Good morning George and Nick,

George, Would you point me in the direction of simplefix fixings and explain how they work.

Nick, thanks for the suggestion but the design works better without a frame.

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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:06 am

Have a look at this....
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:18 am

http://www.snapfix.co.uk/

The pegs are glued to the back of the foamex (i usually score the foamex first to get a good key) then use a good 2 part epoxy resin glue. The cups are screwed to the wall(using a template) and you just push the pegs into the cups and the board will stand off the wall with no visable fixings.

hope this makes sense
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:43 am

oh, not seen those before .......... good idea Georgie Boy!
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:48 am

Thanks for the info, I'm a bit concerned with possible buckling with this length of board using this method, I had some sort of rail system in mind where the sign would be kept rigid, any thoughts?

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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:52 am

there is always a good quality double sided tape i have done this with bigger panels than the one you are going to hang with no problems
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:52 am

I'm just off for the week end, catch up with you Tuesday.

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Post Sat May 26, 2007 11:35 am

Maybe better to use Di-Bond?
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 12:17 pm

A simple and cheap method I have always used is to cut a strip of 5 or 10mm foamex for just under the length of the panel and then using either a bench saw or a jigsaw set to 45 degrees rip down the middle of the strip to give two strips with a matching angle. This doesn't have to be too precise as they will match up when placed together.

Fix one of the strips to the back of the panel with either cyano or VHB tape and the other to the wall by drilling and screwing as normal so that the angles interlock. Fit some 5 or 10mm spacers at the bottom of the panel with VHB tape on both sides. Remove the tape from the spacers, simply hang on the angled upper strip and press the spacers to the wall to prevent it being lifted off.

I have done a small sketch of the strips in action in case this doesn't make sense but am struggling to work out how to upload at the moment!


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Post Sun May 27, 2007 11:06 am

A panatrim frame would make this job look 10 times better than just fitting a piece of Foamex to the wall.
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Post Wed May 30, 2007 8:01 am

Colin@BECC wrote:A simple and cheap method I have always used is to cut a strip of 5 or 10mm foamex for just under the length of the panel and then using either a bench saw or a jigsaw set to 45 degrees rip down the middle of the strip to give two strips with a matching angle. This doesn't have to be too precise as they will match up when placed together.

Fix one of the strips to the back of the panel with either cyano or VHB tape and the other to the wall by drilling and screwing as normal so that the angles interlock. Fit some 5 or 10mm spacers at the bottom of the panel with VHB tape on both sides. Remove the tape from the spacers, simply hang on the angled upper strip and press the spacers to the wall to prevent it being lifted off.

I have done a small sketch of the strips in action in case this doesn't make sense but am struggling to work out how to upload at the moment!


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I'd use Colin's method or even just double sided tape and no nails glue, depending on how permanent you want the sign to be.

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Post Wed May 30, 2007 8:57 am

Hello all,
Thanks for the ideas, especially Colin's, I've sketched it out in my head along with some variations that I know will be put into practice in the future.

The client added that the sign has to be semi permanent, be able to withstand wind gusts and can removed for cleaning on a regular basis, so I have opted for a foam board back plate screwed to the wall with a hook and loop strip arrangement for fixing. If anyone can see any flaws in this method I would be grateful to hear them.

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Post Wed May 30, 2007 1:43 pm

Hook and loop will work fine for this if you use enough. Have sometimes found the adhesive to give up if over a heat source like a radiator but only rarely. Also when we used this method in a school canteen sometimes found the signs "re-arranged" all too easily by the little monsters!

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Post Wed May 30, 2007 3:27 pm

None of those there so all should be good.

Thanks for your time, it's much appreciated


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Post Wed May 30, 2007 8:36 pm

I would worry with hook & loop i.e. velcro. Much more secure with Dual-Lock or equivalent.

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Post Wed May 30, 2007 9:12 pm

Was asked for something similar while at work today and said i would ask you guys for help, customer is making a fairly large mural of digital printed vinyl onto foam and mounting on an internal wall , he is looking for a slim bull nose frame to put around it and some white T sections to fit the foam into , any suggestions where he or i can find these things?\its not our bag but i said ill see what i can find out.

Hope you can help
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Post Wed May 30, 2007 9:18 pm

picture framers carry a very nice slim bull nosed plastic frame, I've used it and it looks really well with foam. Have even used the beading tilers use as well. Can't help on the t-section though...sorry

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