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Gray.Hodge

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Post Fri May 23, 2003 6:53 am

shop signage: parklands

Here is the Parklands job again, I now have the go ahead on it.
It measures about 12 foot long and I was planning to cut it our of foamex (9mm thick).

What is the best way to tackle this?
Do I (as I have considered) cut all the vinyl, lay it on the sheets of foamex then cut around the vinyl? then perhaps paint the edges black with a foam roller.

or is there a better way?

I only have a handheld jigsaw but I think it will do an adequate job cutting the material.

thanks for any advice
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 8:49 am

I find that a jigsaw can mark and scuff the vinyl when cutting foamex with the sign already applied. I think it's better to cut the overall shape in reverse and apply this to the back of the board to cut out the shape. Then apply the vinyl design to the front of the board.

Not sure how to treat the edges though - maybe paint as you have suggested.
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 9:23 am

We would lay vinyl first then jigsaw (trying to match the vinyl to the shape can be tricky, to stop scatching either completely cover with application tape or put some loop velcro on feet of jigsaw..(works a treat)
The edges we would use black permanent marker pen.
By the way great design
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 9:24 am

Hi Gray

Just a thought but you could try using one of the blades for cutting kitchen work surfaces. The ones that have the teeth face the other direction so the cut is on the down stroke of the jigsaw, this may help alleviate any problem of the edge of vinyl being lifted by the blade.

You should of cause leave the application tape on for the pad of the jigsaw to ride on, so as not to mark the surface of the vinyl.
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 9:44 am

3 bits of good advice there gray..

i too use app tape over face of vinyl but in most cases if i can.. i put a small outline around the whole peice, leaving it unweeded & also still with app tape applied.
i then jigsaw. once finished i strip app tape and then the small vinyl outline border that i applied. you will be left with this small but neat white outline all around the whole job. the fact that its there, insures no dog-earing of the vinyl or grit getting caught under the vinyl by the jigsaw blade...

best of luck!
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 10:32 am

Hi Gray,

Probably missing something obvious here, & I havn't done much of this sort of work, but on the few i have done, I have sacrificed a few metres of cheap vinyl by cutting the design, using a jigsaw as you suggested, then removing the "template" vinyl & recovering it. Gets around all the problems of the vinyl getting marked.

Maybe I'm just too enthusiastic about throwing vinyl in the bin :roll: :roll: :roll:

Just an idea...

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Post Fri May 23, 2003 10:34 am

a tip use Bosch A0 jig saw blades for cutting no spelshing of the face very fine cut they are excellent
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 1:28 pm

Thank you all for the advice, (is this great or what - to be able to pick the brains of Britains' finest!!).

I like the app tape idea and your outline idea Rob too.

I did a test today and the blade i used seemed to cut OK. I have a Makita jigsaw and I used a blade for plastics. Sandpaper seems to smooth the edge quickly.

Apparently the newer jigsaws have a cutting action that angles, as well as going up and down, which is supposed to be better. I have an older saw tho.
I'll try to match those bosch blades.
thanks again! one and all!
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Post Fri May 23, 2003 10:08 pm

quick tip....cover the bottom surface of the jigsaw with masking tape so that it doesnt scratch the surface of the material you are cutting or buy some PTFE stick on tape from a tool supplier like axminster tools for a permanent complete non marking method of using a jigsaw.

regards to all
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Post Sat May 24, 2003 1:07 am

I like Robs solution - cut an extra outline, leave the application tape on - then remove the application tape and extra outline after cutting out the shape.

I can see that this would work extremely well - Thanks Rob, I'll use this on the next sign I do like this. Great tip :D
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Post Sat May 24, 2003 9:45 am

Hi Gray I think everyone has coverd the jigging out side but the fomex edges might be long term problem if you want them black.

I have recently used anew product made by Bret Martin ( they make Forex ) its 10 mm thick and made from recycled material and is has a black cour with a 1mm white face we use it for builders site boards it stops the edges picking up the dirt and looking a mess, If you can get hold of it it might be a permenent edge solution.
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Post Sun May 25, 2003 1:15 am

Thanks Neil, but you have me concerned, why will the edges be a problem? will enamel or acrylic paint not seal cover the edges good enough?

I know Brett Martin, I used to use a thinner material of theirs we call Foamalux, but my supplier can't get it anymore.
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Post Wed May 28, 2003 11:59 pm

Hi Gray im shure the edges would be fine painted i supose my line of thought was you could have avoided the job with a Black cored Foamalux this is the product I was thinking of not Forex but as you said this may not be available from your local distributers.

well just an idea.

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Post Thu May 29, 2003 5:28 am

Thanks Neil, actually, my supplier saw this thread and is intersted in following up on the black-core product.

However, Rob's excellent idea of cutting a weed-edge around the whole job means I have a thin white edge, which I will leave as is.
In fact the job has just been finished.
I'll post more piccies later but here is one:
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